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Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

Posted on: June 23, 2010 1:12 pm
Jon Niese The Mets have been linked to high-profile pitchers such as Cliff Lee and Roy Oswalt in recent days. Even Met players have gotten in on the speculation, but can New York afford the price of these pitchers?

They'll have to, as a Mets player dismissed speculation the team could instead go for a solid arm to plug into the rotation such as the Orioles' Kevin Millwood and the Indians' Jake Westbrook. The team faced the two pitchers during interleague play and came away less than impressed.

Yet, the Mets may have no choice to seek a starter on the level of Westbrook and Millwood. That's because, to get a player the caliber of Lee and Oswalt, the team will have to surrender some valuable young pieces, one of which could be Jon Niese.

That's not something New York is willing to do, notes FOX Sports' Bob Klapisch. He reports that senior officials say there is no chance Niese will be traded. Niese has three things working for him: his age (and following that line of thought, salary), handedness and production.

At just 23 and left-handed, Niese has become an important cog in the Mets' rotation, starting 12 games on the season and posting a 4.17 ERA. He's got years of team control ahead of him, and the Mets are wisely keeping one eye on the future even as they scrape and claw for first place in the NL East.

-- Evan Brunell

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
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Since: Jun 26, 2010
Posted on: June 26, 2010 2:57 am

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

Would it really "defeat the purpose??" Adding Cliff Lee to the Mets rotation would be amazing especially in the playoffs. If Lee helps the Mets win the world series or make a series playoff run, I really don't think Neise would be missed.

Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: June 24, 2010 2:11 pm

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter about you continue to do research and I will go with the results on the field.  So you are gonna trade players that are locked up for Lee...who already said he wont sign an extension so next year the Yankees or the red sox swoop in and pay him 200 million...if you havent noticed this is exactly the way the organize has been run for the past twenty years which might explain the ZERO WS title since 1986.  How about you continue to sweep floors or whatever you do for a living and let the Mets hang on to their youth (Reyes, Wright, Niese, Nieve, Davis, Mejia, Pagan, Pelfrey, Thole, etc) know all the players who currently have the Mets 1/2 game out of first with one of the best records in all of MLB. Maybe you noticed the low level veterans like Dickey and Takahashi are the way to go instead of the Wolfes and Lackeys of the world...

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: June 24, 2010 9:25 am

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

Mac. Have you seen Niese pitch?  If you did, you would see that he can easily be a #2.  The guy is young and still developing and yet has pitched very well to date.  Why trade him a low cost solid #3/low #2 who you have tied up for several years for a 3 month rental?

Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2010 11:37 pm

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

You guys r nuts. Niese is nothing. What makes you think he is a top starter? We dont have enough right now and by getting Lee a number 1 for basically a young so-so pitcher your not thinking straight. Niese is nothing more than a 3 if that or a 4 starter. If you can get Lee in a package you @#$$ nuts. For that Lackey comment, yeah ok bay instead of lackey even with lackey's era still a bad move. If not for the idiot owners the Mets have we would have been a dynasty, but yet again they spend 1st rate money on 2nd rate guys. They wont move Niese because he is special, they wont trade him for a #1 because of the finances. Plain and simple. By the way Niese has never been projected to be anything special do some research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2010 7:51 pm

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

Yes yes I know Halladay is pitching really well.  In fact era is the most important stat for pitchers.  I wasn't comparing anyone on the Mets staff to Halladay although Pelfrey at this moment would stand up in a comparison.  I was simply saying that Minaya did the right thing in the off season in not dealing away the club for borderline "experienced" pitchers.  Everyone knows that Halladay is the best pitcher in MLB but the Phillies are proving you need more than one starter to get it done...

Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: June 23, 2010 6:44 pm

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

Koolmike, you are right about a lot of these pitchers, but Roy Halladay is having a great year.  A pitchers record does not always tell the whole story.  Last year Zach Greinke ended the year with a 2.16 ERA, but only had a record of 16-8.  This was the best single season ERA since 2000, but by no means the best record. He lost a few of those games 1-0.  This year he has a 3.94 ERA which isn't amazing but still respectable, and he is only 2-8 through like 14 starts.  However, I don't agree with trading young talent for old talent either.  In fact I believe that it should almost always be the other way around.  If you continue to get rid of old talent for good young prospects a team can stay great for years, and keep their payroll down.  This may not be appropriate for the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, etc.  considering they have a lot of money to spend every year, but signing big time free agents on a yearly basis has worked much better for the Yankees and Red Sox than it has for say the Mets and Cubs.  I say the Mets stick with Niese, and unless they think that Cliff Lee, or Roy Oswalt is what they need to make a push for the World Series this year.  This year is always more important than every other year. If you think you have a chance to compete now for a World Series then you should always do what you need to do to win now because nobody knows what will be different in the future.

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2010 4:38 pm

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

Yeah...except that Halladay has an ERA over a run lower than Pavano.

The Phillies havent scored for him, he should be 10-4, 11-3

Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2010 4:06 pm

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

Why would you even consdier trading a guy thats a focal point of our roation right now.  no. 3 or no. 4 starter if they do trade for a big gun.
If you are going to trade one of our young studs trade Mejia.  He isn't on this roster thus isn't contributing right now.  though you better get Cliff Lee in return

Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2010 3:30 pm

Mets unwilling to deal Niese for top starter

Sometimes the move you dont make are the ones that pay off.  If you look at the free agent pitchers the Mets might have went after last off season I would say at this point Minaya standing pat is looking like a really smart decision.  Ben Sheets is pedestrian, Roy Halladay has the same record as Carl Pavano, Randy Wolfe 5-6 with an era of nearly 5.0 and John Lackey with an era of over 4.50.  Not one of the mets starters has an era near 4.0 and at this point their rotation is the talk of surprises of the 2010 season.  So yeah trading Niese for a 30-something pitcher would be foolish.  Dont do it are wining with this team...

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