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Zambrano mess: What now?

Posted on: June 26, 2010 5:49 pm
Edited on: June 26, 2010 7:39 pm
Carlos Zambrano Carlos Zambrano dropped a big ol' mess in the Cubs' laps Friday with his latest tirade, which gave the team no choice but to suspend him indefinitely.

Now the Cubs have to decide what's next.

Manager Lou Piniella said Zambrano would have to "at least" apologize to his teammates before he could return to the team, and just for easy reference the Chicago Tribune has compiled a list of notable past Zambrano apologies.

The fact that he has done so many things that require apologizing points to the bigger question: Should the Cubs bring him back at all?

Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times says no, that enough is enough. A lot of Cubs fans agree with him.

At this point, the one and only reason to keep him is financial. It would cost $45 million to make this problem go away, and while it's easy for fans to say "good riddance," it's a tougher proposition when the money is yours.

Is Zambrano going to give the Cubs $45 million in baseball value if he stays? Probably not. He's not winning games now, and he's not likely to return to the form that made him an 18-game winner in 2007. At the moment, he's not even one of the Cubs' top five starting pitchers.

Is the absence of Zambrano going to save the Cubs $45 million in headaches? That's impossible to quantify.

The bottom line is that the $45 million is irrelevant to the question of whether to allow Zambrano to wear a Cubs uniform again. It's a sunk cost. They're going to be writing Zambrano checks for a long time, whether he's pitching for them or not. The money is spent, and it's difficult to picture a scenario in which the five-year contract they gave him in 2007 will go down as anything but a mistake. Next time they are tempted to pledge $91.5 million to a guy they know has the emotional maturity of a toddler, the Cubs will probably think twice.

The team can try to trade him, and as long as Chicago is paying the freight someone would probably be be desperate enough to take him off their hands. Zambrano has a full no-trade clause, but at this point you have to think he'd waive it to get a fresh start.

If I'm Cubs GM Jim Hendry, I'm doing everything in my power to convince ownership that it's not worth letting the bad apple continue to spoil the bunch. 

-- David Andriesen

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Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: June 27, 2010 8:42 pm

Zambrano mess: What now?

Anyone that can defend Soriano's play in the field and at the plate with the salary he's being paid isn't a fan of baseball. 
And while Fukudome hasn't been in CF he's been replaced by a pudgy 30 something who only looks like a CF in a beer league or on a fantasy roster. 
The problem remains the cubs stars don't give a dam about winning. Never have. Never will. They have their contracts. And their manager has their backs. What more could they ask for. 
The ball down first couldn't have been gotten, maybe Lee was out of position ? maybe it should have been gotten ? maybe there was an additional reason Zambrano went off ? A talk before the inning - I'm pitching this batter this way so play here. 
Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, three huge contracts worth zip. Give me one Keith Moreland for the lot of them. 
Is Zambrano a clown or are the buffoons signing and playing guys that don't have a passion for the game clowns. 
Hendry and Piniella - those are real clowns. 

Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: June 27, 2010 11:09 am

Zambrano mess: What now?

Seriously?!  You're missing facts here, dude.  I had the game on (being a fan and all).  The ball down first couldn't have been got, the ball down third, maybe, but no play on the runner anyway.  A 3-run bomb is still a 3-run bomb.  And to correct you (since you obviously don't follow)....Soto came in at 280 LAST YEAR.  This year he was in camp at 215 and asked to gain 15 lbs back.  Soriano has been hitting a consistent .280 for a bad team and actually shown more patience at the plate.  Fukodome hasn't played CF since August of last year.  The only 2 guys on the team really not hitting are the only 2 that need to be.  Lee and Ramirez.  RAmirez does look, we'll call it "old", too, but he's here through next year.  Zambrano is an idiot and makes himself look dumber every day.  He guaranteed this spring that his antics were done b/c he was embarrased that his 9-year old daughter saw him as a clown and called him out on it.  Once a clown always a clown.  This is the third time he's been suspended by the team or the league for his antics and has gone off without recourse a number of other times.  Don't talk from the inside if you're not.  The cubs are a bad team and are playing like it right now, but if you dont know the facts, don't talk like an expert.

Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: June 27, 2010 10:12 am

Zambrano mess: What now?

I can't condone the actions of Zambrano but...
A pitcher getting upset when a gold glove first-baseman doesn't make an attempt on a ball ?  I can understand that. The guy makes around 20 million a year and won't dive, really you'd think a manager would get in his face instead of a pitcher. 
Another ball gets past an over-paid third-baseman and suddenly its a rough inning. 
Then after the fact "team" leader, at least in terms of pay Alfonso Soriano comes forward and doesn't understand why Zambrano is upset. Zambrano is upset because the cubs are a collection of me-first players with huge salaries who don't hustle. After years on that team and having it fester I can understand. 
Geovanny Soto comes in at 280lbs. Soriano still can't play the field and his hitting is sub-par, he surely doesn't hustle but he starts everyday ahead of Tyler Colvin. Kosuke Fukudome isn't going to save you any runs in CF. Aramis and Derek might be worth half of what they are paid (let's face it Ramirez shows all the signs of post steroid fatigue). 
And where is the manager in all this ? He's backing his big money guys ? 
Someone had to go off, someone needed to destroy a clubhouse and say - "look you losers it's time to play hard"- the only one willing to do it was Zambrano. 
The cubs big money professionals are a bad influence on kids like Castro, Colvin and even Soto - and as long as that lack of character is supported by the manager, the gm, the fans the team will keep losing. 
I hail Carlos Zambrano as the one Cub that gives a dam. 

Since: Feb 1, 2010
Posted on: June 27, 2010 8:49 am

Zambrano mess: What now?

There's no way Philly is trading for this tempermental idiot. There will be other arms that Philly can trade for by the time the deadline rolls around.

Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: June 27, 2010 2:16 am

Zambrano mess: What now?

Trade him to the Yankees for Burnett.  They both have big contracts and Zambrano might be better off out there and not carrying around the weight of a losing organization.  Burnett might benefit from pitching here and getting some instruction from Rothschild like Silva did to turn around his season.

Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: June 26, 2010 11:54 pm

Zambrano mess: What now?

As a Mets fan, the Phils can have him...he's nothing but a headache and right now the Mets have great chemistry on their team. Not sure why the Phils would want to acquire this dufus as they seem to have a "tight" group of guys also that play together....they would be better off bringing Pedro back in.

Since: Sep 25, 2007
Posted on: June 26, 2010 7:35 pm

Zambrano mess: What now?

Wood, Prior and now Big Z.  Cubs and good pitchers just cannot seem to stay on the right track.  I had hoped that having Greg Maddux around in the Spring would have helped but i was wrong.  Maybe we need to get Sutcliffe, and maybe some other hard core guys in to try and get Big Z back on track.  In his current condition, he is of no use to the Cubs at all.  Just dont trade him in the division.

Since: Mar 12, 2009
Posted on: June 26, 2010 7:10 pm

Zambrano mess: What now?

This is unacceptable by any standards.. frustrated or not you keep your professional appearance and attitude in composure when it comes to outburst to other team mates... take it to the locker room not in the dug out.. CZ has burnt a bridge it seems the Cubs are willing to pay $45 million to let stay burnt if the MLB and MLBPAA has no opposition to letting him be traded or buy him out...Dude needs to se Milton Bradleys Therapist

Since: Oct 26, 2008
Posted on: June 26, 2010 7:10 pm

The Dumb Leading the Dumb

Zambrano is not a very smart guy, a loose cannon, and a head case.  But the amazing thing is how sports owners, managers, college AD's, directors of player personnel,  and GM's fail to consider all the facts when signing guys to big no-trade contracts and/or recruiting them to their universities.

Who are the jackasses who are kicking themselves now in the Zambrano fiasco?  It's the Cub fans who ought to be irate.  The people who paid for the box seats should be tossing the gatorade coolers around in the dugout.

But no, the owners will raise ticket prices to make of for their own stupidity.  While telling us who looked the other way in signing him to play on the north side, which  teams passed on Carlos and breathing a big sigh of relief?

Since: Jun 5, 2010
Posted on: June 26, 2010 7:09 pm

Zambrano mess: What now?

I am sure that the Phillies would love this guy pitching between Doc and Mary (I mean Cole H.) as long as the Cubs pay at least 1/2 the salary. Zambrano is a nut job but he is some fire that the Phillies may need to get them the division now that the Braves, Mets, and even Marlins think they have a chance. Not sure what the Phils could give up in return but start with Raul Ibanez, and go from there.

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