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Report: Phils eyeing Oswalt, try to ship Werth

Posted on: July 20, 2010 11:29 pm
Edited on: July 21, 2010 5:20 pm
 
Jayson Werth Earlier today, we learned that the Phillies may make a deal for a starting pitcher who could then take the rotation spot vacated by Kyle Kendrick on Saturday.

Now, ESPN's Jayson Stark tweets that the Phillies are working on a "major deal" for a starting pitcher. Jayson Werth would be moved in another deal, likely to offset the salary Philadelphia would absorb in the acquisition of the starter. Coworker Buster Olney concurs, saying that Roy Oswalt is a logical fit.

The two starting pitchers on the market that could qualify as a major acquisition are Oswalt and Dan Haren, but Oswalt is far easier to pry. Plus, as Olney says, the Phillies have not discussed Haren, Ben Sheets (who has been linked to Philadelphia before) or any of the Rays pitchers. The Rays have been linked to Werth as they seek a major upgrade with the bat.

All that makes Oswalt the most likely name to be headed to Philly, especially given Oswalt's next start is -- surprise, surprise -- Saturday.

Complicating things is that Oswalt has a full no-trade clause and may want to be convinced by the Phillies that they have a legitimate shot at the playoffs. The Phillies may also be forced to pick up the $16 million club option for 2012, although Oswalt may not make that part of his demands. AOL Fanhouse's Ed Price reports the Astros are very close to putting the deal before Oswalt for a decision.

As for where Werth could go, that's not as obvious. Here are some candidates:
  • Braves: The Braves are thought to be 50/50 on adding another outfielder as Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reports . If Nate McLouth can return from his concussion at full strength, the Braves would be fine given a hot Matt Diaz and the return of Jason Heyward. Complicating matters is that the Braves are a division rival, although Atlanta has young pitching Philadelphia undoubtedly covets.
  • Giants: The Giants are looking for a big bat, but GM Brian Sabean has been adamant that he will not acquire any rental players. Could the chance to get Werth change his mind for a suddenly streaking team who is now tied for second place, 3 1/2 behind the Padres? The Giants could move Jonathan Sanchez to Philadelphia or a stable of prospects. The Phillies will certainly have a desire to restock its farm system.
  • Padres: The division-leading Pads of the West have made no secret of their desire for Corey Hart. They can only wait so long, however, and Werth is not a bad consolation prize at all and could even be considered better than Hart, as the Philly right fielder is a five-tool player. It's unclear what pitching the Pads could possibly cough up, though, especially with Mat Latos on the DL. While they have some intriguing pieces down the farm, there are none that jump out.
  • Rays: The Rays have been seeking a big bat for quite a while, and Werth would certainly be that bat. They have a ton of pitching to deal along with prospects and could match up perfectly, with the Phillies spinning some prospects to Houston by way of Tampa. The Rays could give up Wade Davis or Jeremy Hellickson, as well as no shortage of position player prospects -- especially shortstop, where Houston might love to plug in Reid Brignac or add Tim Beckham to its farm. Olney and Stark both heard the Rays are involved in discussions with Werth, although that doesn't necessarily mean they're the front-runner.
  • Red Sox: The Red Sox could certainly use a big thumper, but the team is about to have a plethora of injured players return, one of which is an outfielder. While Jeremy Hermida doesn't make anyone quake in their boots, their outfield production has been surprisingly effective. They have inquired as to David DeJesus but find the price prohibitive, according to the Boston Globe 's Nick Cafardo. Cafardo also reports that Hart's price is too expensive, so imagine what Werth's price would be to them.
  • White Sox: The ChiSox have been hungry for Adam Dunn, but the Nationals aren't budging on an exorbitant price. A scout says that the Nationals are acting as if Dunn is like Ryan Howard -- which is not all that far off an actual comparison. Bottom line, if Dunn doesn't happen, you can't count Kenny Williams out of a deal for Werth. If Williams made Chicago's farm system available for Dunn, wouldn't it be so for Werth?
  • Yankees: The Yankees are miffed that they missed out on Cliff Lee, and despite their sudden need for a starting pitcher with the Andy Pettitte injury, certainly wouldn't turn down adding a bat to an outfield that needs it. It's unlikely Jesus Montero would be swapped, but they have enough complementary prospects to make a deal happen -- but not to the level as other teams on the list.
You can't have trade rumors without a dark horse, though.

My surprise team? The Athletics.

Think about it: They have no interest in trading Ben Sheets, which has to count for something. Then you have the team 8 1/2 games out of first but very much still in the hunt. They lost Ryan Sweeney for the year and need a stick in the middle of the order -- even when they had Sweeney. And of course, they'll recoup draft picks if/when Werth leaves as a free agent.

It'll certainly be an interesting storyline to follow.

UPDATE : And the Phillies may have just lost a little leverage. Starter Jamie Moyer left Tuesday's game with an injury and the latest report from Todd Zolecki has the lefty headed to the disabled list. Manager Charlie Manuel compared the injury to J.A. Happ's, who took over three months to get back on a mound. Ironically enough, Moyer's replacement will likely be Happ.

-- Evan Brunell

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Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 22, 2010 3:51 pm
 

Report: Phils eyeing Oswalt, try to ship Werth

First, a dynasty isn't four years long.  Second, no, these players won't help THIS nucleus win, but it goes toward creating ANOTHER nucleus that can replace this one.  Having a farm system keeps your team competitive instead of finding yourself in the position of having to continually buy high priced free agents like the Yankees did for a while.  Third, if you think that any team beyond the Yanks and Red Sox are going to shell out $20 million a year for two pitchers, you're smoking crack.  The Phils already have the 4th highest payroll in baseball.  Throw in the need to resign key players in order to continue with THIS nucleus.  The fact is that you want this team to be the Yankees or Red Sox and they aren't.  It is never going to be like that, plain and simple.

Oh, and just because you don't care doesn't change anything.  The fact is that these people get paid good money to rank players for a reason.  You don't.  If you did, you wouldn't be on here arguing with me about minor league rankings.  As far as Gillies goes, one site had him ranked in the top 500 prospects in baseball.  He's going to have to get a lot better to even be put in the "best of the 3" category that you've already slotted him in.

As far as Santana goes, so what if he didn't want to sign with Minnesota?  It's still a valid point.  The reasons are exactly the same.  Minnesota only wanted to offer Santana 4 years, the Mets were willing to offer him 7.  In the same tone, Lee said "I thought I was going to end my career in Philly", meaning he didn't like the 4 or less years that Amaro is willing to offer a pitcher.  Amaro has said in the past that he is uncomfortable giving a pitcher a contract that is longer than 4 years.  That made Halladay THAT much more attractive.  He only had to give him a 3 year contract extension.  With players like Sabathia getting 6 years and Santana getting 7 years, Lee wanted something commensurate.  The only problem with the trade of Lee is Amaro not making it clear that Lee was on the market and getting the best deal for him.  That's it.  That's all.


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Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 22, 2010 12:33 am
 

Report: Phils eyeing Oswalt, try to ship Werth

Johan Santana played for a small-market team in Minnesota, that couldn't afford to pay him to keep him. The Twins offered Santana $20 million a year.  The Mets paid Santana $22 million a year.  That makes the rest of your argument null and void.

Lower-level prosepcts are bums that will never play in a MLB game.  I don't care if Ramirez and Aumont were two of Seattle's best prospects, they weren't rated that highly among other baseball teams and they'll probably never play an inning in a MLB game. MLB.com had Aumont listed as the 47th best prospect in the minors and Fanhouse had him at 29.  Keith Law from ESPN Scouts ranked Juan Ramirez at 101 this year.  750 players make an mlb roster every year, if Aumont and Ramirez were never expected to play an MLB game, why are they rated so high?  No, they aren't top 10 guys, but they are DEFINITELY expected to make an MLB roster at some point.  Once again, your lack of Phillies organizational knowledge makes the rest of your argument null and void.

No thanks, I'll just continue banging the Cliff Lee drum until this organization does something right by their fans.  Being as though the Phillies were in a position to have the best rotation in baseball, that trade was inexcusable. Actually, no it wasn't.  Whether people want to believe it or not, they are only looking at things in a very short sighted manner.  Here's the deal.  At the beginning of the season, we KNEW we would be competing for a playoff spot.  Now, if we keep Lee and get Halladay, at the trade deadline, we would have not traded Lee because we'd be competing for a playoff spot.  At the end of the season, he leaves and we get nothing for him.  They traded Lee, got something for him, and we're STILL competing for a playoff spot.  Lee going to the Mariners has zero effect on how well the Braves are playing this year.  ZERO.  Throw in the fact that this LINEUP has had problems scoring runs consistently and we get to the crux of the REAL problem.  Either the team puts up 7, 8, 9 runs or it puts up 1,2,3 run.  The fact of the matter is that the Phil's team ERA is right in line with what it was last season.  But, instead of dominating the league in hitting, like they did last year, they're running with a pack of other teams.  Now, I'll state this once again for those of you who missed it when I said it awhile ago.  Who, at the beginning of the season, said to themselves, "You know, the Phillies just don't have enough hitting"?




Since: Jul 18, 2008
Posted on: July 21, 2010 8:16 pm
 

Report: Phils eyeing Oswalt, try to ship Werth

I can not totally disagree more. Face it the Brave are crap and you know it. They will hit a wall and implode. Funny, the last two years when the crappy Braves were in the Phillies and Mets rear view mirror where were the Braves Fans? I am sorry dude you have issues at third with Chipper always injured and basically useless. What other talent do you have? A rookie outfielder? I am sorry but, looking over The Braves roster shows me nothing impressive. What you failed to realize that injuries can decimate a team. Look at Boston before you run your pathetic mouth. Yes, Boston is a great team dealing with a lot of injury issues and that is hurting them. Once they get their players back then watch out. Boston will be tough to beat. Now with the Phillies it is hard for them to do well when seven of their top players are on the dl. I am sure your narrow mind can conceive that one. The Phillies have yet to have a healthy team all year and that is tough to over come. I am sure if the Braves had seven or more players on the dl. they would be where the Phillies are now. Ok, I agree that it was a mistake to get rid of Lee and The Phillies over rated some of their pitchers. I am not a fan of Blanton and Kendrick. I have always liked Roy Oswalt and feel now if that they can get him that could be the shot in the arm that this team needs. As for third base I never liked Polanco and felt that Chone Figgins would have been a better fit here or Adrian Beltran. Another mistake by Phillies management. As for the bullpen I agree it could use some improvement but, is not average at best. I can say that Alanta's bullpen is not much better at all. I also agree that Boston will not sell the farm for Jason Werth. I would love those players but, Ellisbury is currently injured and would be more effective next season as opposed to this one. He is coming off a major rib injury and has yet to begin rehab and getting back into game shape. I have been a life long Phillies fan and I have enjoyed watching the Braves stink up the joint. It is never too late and I can see this nitwit doesn't have a clue to what he is talking about. Too late for The Phillies to come back? I don't think so. I remember back in July 1993 when Atlanta was 9 or 10 games back in their division and a huge trade or two and battled The Giants for first place. It took until the end of the season to determine the winner of that race and it was The Braves by one game over The Giants. Funny, that year The Braves were Killed by The Phillies. I loved it. So, I can see history repeating itself here and this time it being the Phillies making that huge trade or two and over coming a seven game deficite and watching Atlanta fall to third place where they so rightfully belong. Rollins is fine and I agree with Ibanez. Yes, dude you need to suck it up and enjoy third place because Atlanta in the end just is not good enough for any thing...As for our catcher I do agree it stinks and I wish we had Joe Mauer on our team.

Now, that is the bottom line because I just said so!!!!!


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