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Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

Posted on: July 23, 2010 7:04 pm
Edited on: October 19, 2010 11:27 am

Dan Haren The Yankees may add to their rotation after all, as the team is on the verge of landing Dan Haren,'s Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi report .

According to the report, the Diamondbacks are telling teams they are "in advanced negotiations with one club," citing major-league sources.

Among other interested teams based on several reports include the Dodgers, Tigers, Twins, Phillies and Cardinals.

Although the Yankees were dangling catching prospect Jesus Montero along with second baseman David Adams and right-hander Zach McAllister for the Mariners' Cliff Lee. The Diamondbacks would likely be looking for more pitching and it's unlikely Montero is available.

Haren is under contract through 2012 plus a club option for 2013, so it's not as if the team needs to get rid of him right now. However, the Diamondbacks are looking to slash payroll and Haren will make $12.75 million in each of the next two seasons and the team option for 2013 is for $15.5 million with a $3.5 million buyout.

UPDATE: Ed Price of FanHouse reports the Cardinals are out of the running for Haren, and FanHouse's Frankie Piliere tweets the Yankees' Ivan Nova is the key piece for the Diamondbacks in a trade with New York.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 12, 2011 3:51 pm

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Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: July 27, 2010 8:13 pm

Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

Thankfully there was a clause that said Boston would keep their 51.11 million if they did not sign Dice-K.

They signed him for 6 years for 52 million. The total purchase was 103.11 million for 6 years service, a little more than 17 million a year.

Thanks for providing the details MB.

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2010 12:16 pm

Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

Grit - I can't say that I disagree much with that assessment of the GMs, although you also have to consider that a big chunk of the Yankee payroll is paid out to what was at one time "cheap home grown talent" which matured and, fittingly, received big money contracts (Mo, Jeter, Pettitte and Posada). If the Sox hold on to Pedroia and Youk and Paplebon and Lester for a few more years, those guys won't really be "cheap" home grown talent anymore.

With respect to Dice-K, the Sox paid a blind posting fee to Dice-K's Japanese employer (the Seibu Lions) in excess of $50 million for the right to negotiate with him and give him a $52 million contract (bringning his cost to $103 million).  If the Sox didn't sign him, they would have been able to keep their posting fee. Below is an exerpt from a 2/23/07 article from ESPN when the Sox signed Dice-K which mentions the posting fee. I'm not saying this was a bad business decision for the Sox, since it gave them a footprint in Japan that they wanted to expand their contacts and their merchandising efforts abroad (and certainly paid-off more than the Yankees paying $26 million to negotiate with .. ack .. Kei Igawa), but it's still a sum that few teams in the majors could afford to spend just for the right to negotiate with the guy and pay him another boatload of money that few teams could afford to pay.


"BOSTON -- The $51.11 million the Red Sox offered to pay for the rights to Daisuke Matsuzaka was enough to get the Japanese ace across the Pacific Ocean.

It took that much again, and a little more, to fly him the rest of the way to Boston.

Bridging the economic gap in the most expensive cultural exchange in baseball history, the Red Sox reached a preliminary agreement Wednesday with Matsuzaka on a $52 million, six-year contract. With $103.11 million on the table, the two sides flew back to Boston on Red Sox owner John Henry's private plane.


The Red Sox won the bidding for Matsuzaka's rights last month, promising to pay the Seibu Lions $51.11 million if they let him leave for the major leagues. But they had just 30 days -- until midnight ET Thursday night -- to negotiate a contract with Boras or the right-hander would return to Japan and Boston would keep its money.


Negotiations had slowed because the Red Sox looked at the posting fee and the eventual contract as a $103 million payout for one pitcher. "That magnitude is certainly the right ballpark for the commitment of the ballclub," Epstein had said."

Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2010 11:11 am

Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

Tim Marchman > Inside Baseball posted a ranking of MLB GM's on 3/4/2010, "AL East grabs top three spots in ranking of the general managers", and below is what he has to say about Theo Epstien and Brian Cashman.

2. Theo Epstein, Boston

Among baseball's really big spenders, the Red Sox are the most efficient, or, if you prefer, the least wasteful. It's difficult to avoid roster bloat while playing even-up with the , but they've managed it. Before signing starter this winter, they didn't have a player making more than $14 million per year, and the team is built around cheap, homegrown talent. Like the , the impressive thing about the Red Sox is that they may deserve even more hype than they get.

3. Brian Cashman, New York Yankees

Cashman's weakness isn't a small one -- the Yankees, the only team in baseball to routinely run $200 million payrolls, have recently been spending about four times as much per win as the Rays. Why, then, does he rank so high? His four world championships don't hurt, but the really impressive thing is that since he secured full control over baseball operations after the 2005 season, the Yankees have spent their money wisely, signing studs like rather than sure bets for decline, and traded smartly, dealing the fruits of a much-improved farm system for players still in their prime, such as .

Above is an article by Tim Marchman that ranked MLB GM's and a small quip of why he felt they deserved the ranking. The #1 GM was the GM for the Rays.

Marchman believes the Red Sox are among the 'really big spenders'.

I find it hard to believe the Red Sox would bid 50 million just for the right to negotiate for Dice-k and would like to see the evidence of that. If the Red Sox did spend 50 milllion for that right, I believe, by principle, that it was a mistake. I'm saying that even after seeing the success that Dice-K has had. Spending 50 million before knowing Dice-K was going to be successful was a huge gamble, if that is what happened. 50 million could have bought a lot of young homegrown talent.

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: July 25, 2010 7:15 pm

Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

Actually, Grit, I was speaking more of guys like Manny, Lackey and Dice-K  and Teixeira, CC and Burnett etc. Personally, I like seeing the Canos and Pedroias come up and play, but have nothing against mixing in some high-priced outsiders. I do find it hypocritical, however,  when Sox fans pretend that theres is a mid-market team and complain about Yankee spending when the Sox are spending the Royals' annual payroll just for the right to negotiate with Dice-K. And I know that the Sox fans respond that they have to spend to try to keep up with the Yankees, but I'm guessing that it doesn't matter much to an Indians or a Pirates fan whether the payroll of the team that they're getting stomped by is three times or four times the payroll of their team.

Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: July 25, 2010 3:22 pm

Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

Nice post MergerBoy, I'm pretty sure we can believe what you say when it comes to a fine Yankee fan like yourself because like you posted to me earlier, you are a yankee fan who knows and respects the Yankee history. Grandpa's have a big influence on us, don't they.

Thanks for letting us know about Schilling and the Red Sox.

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: July 25, 2010 2:21 pm

Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

why do that keep buying players It's tough to argue with the success the Yanks and Red Sox have enjoyed in recent years buying players. You're exactly right, Ricky.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: July 24, 2010 11:48 pm

Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

why do that keep buying players

Since: Jul 24, 2010
Posted on: July 24, 2010 6:59 pm

Report: Yankees close to landing Haren

I am 67 and have been a YANKEE fan all of my life.  I think you should give someone in the farm system a start in the big leagues.

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