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Yankees making a bid for Soria

Posted on: July 26, 2010 11:05 am
Edited on: July 26, 2010 1:09 pm
 

Joakim Soria New York already has the best team in baseball, are the Yankees looking to add the best nickname in baseball?

Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated says the Yankees have made a "big proposal" for Royals closer Joakim Soria, "the Mexicutioner."

It would make sense for the Yankees, Joba Chamberlain hasn't exactly performed so well as the bridge to Mariano Rivera that people are trying to push the old man out the door. Soria has 27 saves so far this season, had 30 last year and 42 the season before. He has a career 1.007 WHIP and a 2.12 ERA, including a 2.25 ERA this season, striking out more than a batter an inning.

What's even more appealing is that he's under team control through 2014, so he can't just become a free agent and sign with the Yankees. If he's a Yankee, we can just go ahead to 2015 without all that pointless waiting.

However, that's exactly why the Yankees need to make a "big" proposal for Soria. The Royals actually have some talent on the farm and could contend for a .500 record in 2012 or 2013 -- and wouldn't have to worry about a closer.

Soria makes a bargain $4 million next season with club options for 2012 ($6 million), 2013 ($8 million) and 2014 ($8.75 million). None of those types of numbers would make the Yankees blink -- even for a middle reliever.

However, besides Jesus Montero, New York doesn't have impact players in their farm system. Catcher Austin Romine would be a good get for the Royals, but hardly the value the team needs for Soria. The Yankees were said to be dangling Ivan Nova, Zach McAllister and possibly Chamberlain for Dan Haren. A similar package may be enough to pry Soria from the Royals and make the Yankees even more of a favorite than they are today.

UPDATE: In an online chat, ESPN's Jayson Stark says the Yankees have at least discussed the possibility of sending Montero to Kansas City for Soria, which may be the only way this deal makes sense for the Royals -- unless the Yankees bring the Mets in to send Dayton Moore's crush, Jeff Francoeur,  to KC, which may not make baseball sense, but when has that stopped Moore? CoughAnkielCoughKendallCough

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Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2010 6:51 pm
 

Yankees making a bid for Soria

Tampa Nuggz...

You are a douche.

Eat it hater....



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2010 6:19 pm
 

Yankees making a bid for Soria

I would cheer for this trade.  Maybe just maybe this kid could become the real deal.  He will have no better choice than New York to be great.  He'll have Mariano Rivera to coach him.  I'm sure this kid will have no problem being Marianos set up man.  LETS GO YANKEES....LETS GO YANKEES.......LETS GO YANKEES


The-Blueprint
Since: Feb 9, 2010
Posted on: July 26, 2010 6:08 pm
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Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2010 5:02 pm
 

Yankees making a bid for Soria

I truly believe that baseball management hasn't changed over the years but the baseball fan has.  There's a time to go for broke and a time to hold your hand.  Texas with all it's off the field issues needed to make a splash.  They are in bankruptcy, living on MLB's dime, they need to compete to raise their value so the bids come in higher (and pay back the loan to MLB).  I feel no sense of great loss at Lee being dealt to Texas.  EVERYONE knows (at least those of us in the legal field who are monitoring the bankruptcy case) know Texas can't resign him.  If Lee helps Texas win the West then the baseball gods will be happy. 

Haren is a good, not great pitcher.  He's due $12.75 million in 11 and 12.  In 13" he has a $15.5 million dollar club option with a $3.5 million dollar buyout.  Were the Yankees to add that then signing Lee this offseason becomes impossible.  Vasquez, Johnson, and Park all come off the books in the $18.2 million dollar range.  That's where Lee slots in.

What I enjoy more and more is real baseball fans who don't just realize baseball is a business but actually think how each move affects the next and fits into the overall pitcher.  Every team (even the Yankees) have to operate within their revenue stream.  I've heard and read the Yankees operate with a budget between $250-$275 million (this includes revenue sharing), so pushing the envelope beyond $220 million is unlikely. 

Realistically, your in first place, your rotation of CC, Burnett (who's just as capable of reeling off a 5-6 wins in a row as he is to losing that many), Pettitte (currently hurt with a groin, not an arm or back injury), Hughes, and Vasquez.  You are not desperate.  Sure things can go wrong, that's the beauty of hindsight, but right now, as a Yankee fan, I'm glad we didn't acquire either of them.  Soria is another story all together.  WE NEED a reliever.  Robertson and Chamberlain haven't found consistency.  Park just sucks.  Gaudin, Mitre, and Mosely are not fit for meaningful duty.

You have limited assets, do you A) trade for something you can go without (namely a starter) or B) use what you have to acquire a piece you desperately need.  I think common sense tells you to get the reliever.



Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: July 26, 2010 4:50 pm
 

Yankees making a bid for Soria

If the Yankees really wanted Lee they would've upped their offer for additional prospects/cash/current players to make it work. In the days of King George, if he would've said get Lee, the Yankees could've made it happen believe me. But instead they chose a more conservative route, one where the Yankees actually OVERVALUE their farm system for a change and try and preserve their talent.

I actually think the Yankees have been smart. In the end it wasn't in the Yankees best interest to trade for Lee given their opportunity to sign him this off-season.

With Soria the Yankees were once again hoping to give a mediocre deal for a top notch player. The Royals wanted more, the Yankees said no, end of story. Its not a big deal; the Royals were smart not to deal Soria for just one blue-chip prospect, the Yankees were smart in not offering more for a right handed reliever.

Can you blame the Yankees for shooting high with their trade offers? Whats the worst that will happen?

Oh yea someone like TAMPA NUGGZ will say the Yankees got slapped. O well.


And Crawford will NEVER be a Yankee....Write that down.

Writing it down. Will send you a message this Winter laughing in your face.





Since: Jun 28, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2010 2:44 pm
 

Yankees making a bid for Soria

Once again my fellow Yankee lovers and haters we see why the New York Yankees are a superior team.  It's not just about the Benjamins though it helps, but the fact that the Cash Man has always understood the fundamental principle that pitching wins championships.  A week and a half ago the baseball universe was up in arms when they heard the Yankees were the front runners in the Cliff Lee deal, oh what greedy bastards.  Oh yeah well lets take a look as what has happened since, Andy pulls his groin, Mitre as I expected and against one of the not so good teams in the league pitches a stinker, let's not forget Mr. Baseball Psychosis himself this year, AJ Burnett and someone who's present disappointment is probably not as much his fault as it is the teams and the reason this article exsists, Mr. "I am honored to be mentioned in trade talks" (wtf?), Joba Chamberlain, himself.  Though pitching has improved and become more effective over the years the number of good to great pitchers have not and those that have fail to be consistent.  So when you can get out there and get an ace you go out there and get one.  But if this turns out to be true and the deal can get done, then Brian does it again.  Joba be careful cause sooner or later those trade talks will lead to a trade.  Peace, Sports Universe.



Since: Jul 3, 2010
Posted on: July 26, 2010 2:39 pm
 

Yankees making a bid for Soria

Couldn't agree with you more on this one!  The Yankee brass really dropped the ball with Joba.  I've always felt his mentality was that of a short innings relief/closer guy.  They need to find a way to get him to go back to that thought process of getting his sign, gripping the ball, and firing it home with no worries!!



Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2010 2:21 pm
 

Yankees making a bid for Soria

At $30 plus milluion over the next 2-3 years Haren wasn't a neccessity (add the fact that they wanted Ivan Nova and I'd balk at it to).  Especially when you take into consideration we'll being throwing 20 plus at Lee this offseason.  Say what you will about are farm system, but considering we were picking either last or towards the end of the first round for the better part of the last 15 years and I'm okay with our system.  I don't hear any complaints out of Detroit about Austin Jackson.  Gardner, Curtis, Miranda, Cervelli, Russo, Pena, Aceves, Robertson, Joba, Hughes, all have played big roles for us over the past few years so the cubbard is far from dry.  You can talk alot of junk when after years of sucking and picking in the top five your team finally puts together a string of success.  Talk to me when you put together more then three years of decent baseball or actually win a world series.


TAMPA NUGGZ
Since: Sep 8, 2008
Posted on: July 26, 2010 2:09 pm
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