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Report: Astros, Phillies await Oswalt's OK

Posted on: July 29, 2010 1:41 am
Edited on: July 29, 2010 2:18 pm
Roy Oswalt UPDATE : Oswalt has agreed to go to Philly, and the Astros will receive J.A. Happ and two minor-leaguers. Click here for the full story .

All Roy Oswalt has to do is say OK and he'll be a Phillie, according to a report by Mark Berman of FOX 26 Sports in Houston .

Berman says the Astros and Phillies have agreed not only on the players involved, but also the amount of money involved in the deal.

Oswalt asked to be traded earlier this season, so it's assumed he'll waive his no-trade clause to join Philadelphia.

If Oswalt moves before his scheduled start against the Brewers on Friday, he will leave Texas one victory shy of tying Joe Niekro's record for victories as an Astro (144).

This season he is 6-12 with a 3.42 ERA. He is owed roughly $5 million for the rest of this season, plus $16 million next season. He also has a club option for $16 million in 2012 with a buyout of $2 million.

Earlier in the day, it was reported the Cardinals were out of the running for Oswalt and the Dodgers were unlikely to swing a deal.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 29, 2010 10:29 am

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Upper management is NOT getting a pass on this from me.  They screwed up (and still are).  Now they are trying to make amends.
I know that to you, this is monopoly money so in your perfect world they should have kept Lee, then signed Halladay and then maybe what the hell get Oswalt as well.... but since this is somebody elses REAL money what the Phillies did makes complete sense.

They signed the BETTER overall pitcher and BY FAR the better pitcher statistically in his career... Halladay.  It's not even close so don't even come back to me even trying to compare Lee and Halladay.  Not only were Halladay's stats better in his career but Lee pitched in the American League Central and then the National League before this year where Halladay pitched in the toughest division in baseball, the American League East.  So that decision was easy....  they COULDN'T and didn't want to pay for both pitchers.  They do not want to pay the Yankee like luxury taxes.. the Phillies are NOT the Yankees and don't have the lucrative tv network the Yankees have... nobody else does.  And don't forget the Phillies wanted to get some of the prospects they lost in the lee trade back to acquire Halladay.  I know I know, you think your system has unlimited great prospects right?  Wrong.... they don't. At the time, it was the correct move.

As for possibly acquiring Oswalt this suddenly and so soon and getting rid of some talent to do so, there is a reason for that as well.  Oswalt is going to cost the Phillies a fraction of what Lee wanted long term.  Less than 5 million this season and only what was it, 12 or 15 for next season?  After that, they re-evaluate. But Lee would have been a much bigger committment then Oswalt and cost a lot more.

You Philly fans crack me up... whining ALL THE TIME over a decision your management made or decisions they make today.  You make the playoffs consistently, you make back to back world series and you win a championship yet you still cry???

Since: Oct 30, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2010 10:23 am

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Halladay and Lee were part of the same trade.  Was keeping Lee and acquiring Halladay an option, or did the Phillies have to give up Lee to get Halladay? They were in fact seperate trades that just occured at the same time.  They wanted them done at the same time so us Philly fans wouldn't get used to the idea of having both Halladay and Lee in the rotation.

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2010 10:22 am

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While I don't think adding Roy Oswalt is necessarily a bad thing, I don't think that it's the best move the Phillies could have made.  First, look at what's coming off the payroll in the next couple of years.  Clearly, the Phillies management is concerned with salary and payroll issues.  Jamie Moyer makes $6.5 million in 2010, Jose Contreras $1.5 million, Jayson Werth $7.0 million, J.C. Romero $4.0 million, Greg Dobbs $1.35 million.  That's a total of $20.35 million off the books for 2011.  If you assume they're going to let all of these guys walk (not a stretch at all) and Domonic Brown is here to stay, they need starting pitching.  Looking at the free agent market, there's only a handful of quality arms out there.

Jake Westbrook is pulling down $11 million in 2010 and should easily get $14-16 million per year in a 3-5 year deal.  Carl Pavano is a bargain at $7 million this year and should get a 2-3 year deal for $10-12 million per year.  Brett Myers seems to have done nicely this year and should be able to get a deal similar to Pavano's.  Ted Lilly made $12 million each of the last two seasons and probably won't settle for anything less than $26 million over two years.  He could be on his last long-term deal so he has to make it pay off.  Cliff Lee will easily get a 5-year deal for $80-90 million.

The question the Phillies have to ask themselves is will a 33/34 year old Oswalt at $16 mllion who has stated he's not that interested in a big market like Philly be worth the money?  Considering the team will still have to bolster it's bullpen to the tune of $6-8 million to replace Contreras and Romero, they might want a better bargain for the #2/3 pitcher at the top of the rotation.

Westbrook is a question mark since he's only a year removed from Tommy John surgery.  Pavano is two years down the road from the same surgery.  Take both of them off the list since the Phillies are gun shy giving contracts to such arms.  (I think that's another unstated reason they didn't want to pull the trigger on locking up Cliff Lee long term.)  Lilly has a history of shoulder problems and you can eliminate him as well.

Believe it or not, I think the Phillies would be better served to try and land Brett Myers and lock him up instead.  He's got a mutual option of $8 million for 2011 which the Astros can't be interested in picking up if they're shopping him and Oswalt.  Myers injury issue was for his hip and not his arm and he sure looks healthy throwing to an ERA a run and a half lower than last season when he was still in Philly.  If there's no bad blood lingering between the Phils and Myers, he's much better for the long-term prospects and we know he can handle picthing in Philly.  Getting Myers for only $10-12 million a year would also leave over $10 million to fill out the roster with better supporting players.

Since: Aug 1, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2010 10:17 am

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Halladay and Lee were part of the same trade.  Was keeping Lee and acquiring Halladay an option, or did the Phillies have to give up Lee to get Halladay?   

Since: Apr 19, 2010
Posted on: July 29, 2010 9:59 am

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I would rather see them keep Happ and use the money they are going to give Oswald to resign Jason Werth.  I would assume bringing in Oswald means Werth is gone and I don't think he will be as easy to replace and some seem to think.

Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2010 9:55 am

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I have my reservations due to the high salary and declining stats since 2005. I realize the Astros are mediocre so that has something to do with it. I really want to hear what he has to say about where his preference to play would be and not just what we hear thru the media.
I would not like to part with Happ, but he is the only top prospect ready to play or has played in majors. I hope he comes back to form like 2009, after this injury.
We still need to find a closer or addl bullpen help and hope we get Utley back asap. Dobbs is useless in the lineup. Here we come Braves.

Since: Oct 31, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2010 9:50 am
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Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: July 29, 2010 9:46 am
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Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2010 9:32 am

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Really - he's better than Hammels. Watch much baseball?

Since: Aug 27, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2010 8:51 am

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don't know a lot about Oswalt, except he has been a good pitcher for Astros.but if he is a spoiled whiney type, he will fit in nicely in Philly.5-12 record, 15mil. sounds NOT like what i would want.LaughingGO BRAVES

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