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Rose makes tearful apology

Posted on: September 12, 2010 1:55 pm
Edited on: September 12, 2010 1:55 pm
Pete Rose
Finally allowed back on the field, Pete Rose was silent. The banished hit king didn't grant interviews before or after his appearance Saturday at a ceremony commemorating the 25th anniversary of his record hit. He didn't speak to the crowd during the appearance.

But afterward, Rose reportedly broke down with a lengthy, tearful apology for betting on baseball. At a roast of Rose at an Indiana casino, he sat among former teammates including Tony Perez and Ken Griffey Sr. and held nothing back. Some of his comments, as reported by the Cincinnati Enquirer:
"I disrespected the game of baseball. When you do that, you disrespect your teammates, the game and your family. I guarantee everybody in this room, I will never disrespect you again."

"You can talk about hits and runs and championship games ... [But] I want my legacy to be [that of] somebody who came forward. If anybody has a problem here today, come forward. Don't hide it ... You can run, but you can't hide. If I can help a young kid to know what I went through, maybe I can prevent them from going through the same thing.

"I got suspended 21 years ago. For 10-12 years, I kept it inside ... That's changed. I'm a different guy ... I love the fans, I love the game of baseball, and I love Cincinnati baseball."

It was a remarkable moment for Rose, who only admitted to gambling to sell a book and makes a living now signing baseballs with "sorry I bet on baseball." When he has talked about it before, it has too-often felt like self-promotion, or a campaign to be allowed back in baseball, and not genuine contrition.

Now, it looks like maybe Rose really gets it.

"Nice, nice," said Perez afterward. "I was crying. He finally got it off his chest."

-- David Andriesen

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Category: MLB
Tags: Reds

Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 11, 2011 12:05 pm

Rose makes tearful apology

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Since: Oct 20, 2007
Posted on: September 13, 2010 12:19 pm

Rose makes tearful apology

Again, wrong.  All sins are not equal.  There is a reason that there is a permanent ban from baseball attached to gambling and there isn't for any other "crime against the game".  I'm very disappointed that there are so many people who do not understand why gambling on the game while involved in the game is the ULTIMATE crime against the game. 

A lot of people say that there is no proof that Rose did anything differently than he would have if he didn't gamble.  How would someone prove that?  It's not a question of proof.  It's a question of whether or not it's possible that he did something differently.  Of course it is, and that's the whole gist of the argument.  The legitimacy of the game is now in question, as well as the legitimacy of games right before and after in which he may have made decisions to help ensure that he'd win his wager in that game.

Steroid use falls into the same category as corked bats, spitballs, doctored balls, Reggie Jackson leaning into a relay throw from second to first to deflect the throw and prevent the double play, etc. 

Steroids are only banned because they are harmful to people if they are used on a long-term basis.  See my other post with the question about the possibility of a steroid alternative that isn't harmful to people.  Would it be wrong to use such a thing?

Since: Sep 3, 2008
Posted on: September 13, 2010 11:59 am

Rose makes tearful apology

To preface: I am a huge Reds fan going back to my early days. Rose was not my favorite player. Didn't dislike him, he just wasn't the flashy guy that I preferred as a kid.

Opinion: HOF should recognize the All-Time Hits King with a plaque, bearing the accomplishment. As punishment to the individual, show no likeness, simply state the facts. Name, number of hits, date the record was set, etc...

One day, Rose WILL be in the HOF as a player as well, for his accomplishments on the field. The HOF may never be ready to fete the man during his lifetime. Fine. He was wrong. I will never argue that he "has paid his dues". Rose's continued denials and handling of his lifetime ban from MLB in any capacity gives fodder to those that feel the ban should continue. No disagreement on my part.

However, for the single sport that values it's numbers and statistics above any other, the exclusion of this record devalues the HOF's credibility to report the history of the game.

I for one, do not doubt that any admission by Rose in the past had something to do with self-promotion of a book, autograph signing, etc.. Yet, to say that a 70-ish yr old man who by all accounts found his brilliance on the diamond and not in books, business, or societal common sense has now become an Academy Award winning actor by crying on cue? That last, I doubt.
Rose, in my opinion, now understands the level of damage he caused the game, and his personal reputation.

Continue to punish the individual if you must MLB, HOF, and sportswriters.
Complete the HOF legacy of baseball greatness and accomplishment by including the All-Time Hits Leader.

Thanks for the soapbox! :)

Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: September 13, 2010 11:08 am

Rose makes tearful apology

The use of artificial means to improve performance will never put the entire game's existence at risk.  Players gambling on the game while they're involved in it brings into question the legitimacy of the game.

I disagree.  Anything that has the potential to affect the outcome of the game certainly puts the games existence at risk.  

Like the legitimacy of the games that Bonds, ARod, Sosa, Clemens etc played in.  Bonds holds the all time record for homeruns in a season and career, he won countless games for the Giants with his homeruns all while be jacked up on the juice.  Where's the legitimacy in that?

Clemens has won numerous Cy Young awards and baseball games all while jacked up on the juice.  Again, where's the legitimacy in that?

Bottom line is that all sins should be looked at as equal.  Perhaps not in the same ways, but the steroid users affected the game every bit as much as Rose did with his gambling.

Also another poster mentioned the fact that Rose didnt speak at the ballpark event.  Well, what the writer of the story failed to mention was that as part of the stipulation for Rose being able to participate, MLB did not allow him to speak.  In a pre-recorded interview that was shown during the ceremony, Rose did say similar things that he said at his roast.

Since: Oct 20, 2007
Posted on: September 13, 2010 10:54 am

Rose makes tearful apology

Suppose that tomorrow a new "steroid" alternative is discovered that has ZERO negative side effects and actually has a few positive side effects, like fighting cancer cells.  Would it be considered "cheating" for players to start taking that drug?

Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posted on: September 13, 2010 10:45 am

Rose makes tearful apology

I don't see how there is even an argument here. Rose knes that betting on baseball would get you banned, and he bet on baseball. Then he lied about it making his supporters look like total fools, the supporters who stuck by him look like even bigger fools ( you can read their posts on this thread). Then he signed an agreement that he would be banned. HE SIGNED IT. He banned himself really.

Since: Oct 20, 2007
Posted on: September 13, 2010 10:40 am

Rose makes tearful apology

You are 100% wrong.

What Rose did was a million times worse than what any steroid user did.  The use of artificial means to improve performance will never put the entire game's existence at risk.  Players gambling on the game while they're involved in it brings into question the legitimacy of the game.  If it was found out that the games were somehow "rigged", the league would die and there would be no more MLB.

I say put Rose in the HOF, just to shut the whiners and complainers up.  Put it clearly on his plaque what he did, why he is banned for life from the game, and do it non-ceremoniously, without allowing him to participate in the induction ceremony.

Since: Aug 23, 2010
Posted on: September 13, 2010 9:11 am

Rose makes tearful apology

" At a roast of Rose at an Indiana casino... "

Uh... Rose belongs in the Hall... all of the steroid cheaters do not.  But saying you're sorry for gambling on baseball, while in a casino is like Bonds saying he's sorry for doing the roid in a drug store.

Since: Apr 4, 2008
Posted on: September 13, 2010 9:04 am

Rose makes tearful apology

@mhu714 - Should Arod, Clemens, McGuire, Sosa, Bonds etc.  make it to the HOF?  They all told the truth right? Yeah, they told it after the fact only when it suited them. And most of them still won't admit it.  Sound familiar?

Since: Aug 25, 2010
Posted on: September 13, 2010 6:33 am

Rose makes tearful apology

Rose finally admitted that he bet on baseball,he regrets his actions ,it's time to let him back into the sport. I have always been a staunch supporter of his banishment from baseball because he would never admint what he did. Now that he has apologized for his actions I believe we should give him a second chance as we have done with other players who have wronged the game.

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