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Players criticize (lack of) fans

Posted on: September 27, 2010 11:14 pm
Edited on: October 19, 2010 11:57 am
 

A couple of crowds on Monday night were not what some of the people on the field wanted them to be, and the players made it known.

The Rays had a chance to clinch a playoff berth with a win at home against the Orioles, and just 12,446 showed up. And it really wasn't even that many -- remember that baseball uses "tickets sold" as attendance, so season tickets count whether the people show up or not. The crowd was just over half Tampa Bay's season average of 23,047.

Rays ace David Price took to his personal Twitter account to complain, writing "Had a chance to clinch a post season spot tonight with about 10,000 fans in the stands....embarrassing."

Tampa third baseman Evan Longoria told the St. Petersburg Times that the small crowds down the stretch are "disheartening" and embarrassing."

In Washington, there were a few more fans -- 14,309. What troubled the Nationals was that way too many of them were Phillies fans there to watch their team clinch the National League East title.

The Washington Post quoted Nats shortstop Ian Desmond as saying it was "kind of embarrassing when everyone in the stadium is clapping against you when you’re at home."

Outfielder Nyjer Morgan had this to say to natsinsider.com:
"Damn, it was a lot louder at our place than it was at their place when we go there. It felt it was a home game for the Phillies."

It's not generally a good business practice to criticize the customers, but sometimes frustration takes over.

UPDATE: After his comment spread across the internet, Price tweeted: "If I offended anyone I apologize I did not think it was gonna turn into this ..."

-- David Andriesen

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Comments

Since: Jun 22, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:50 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

"MLB players must not read  or watch the news.  We everyday working stiffs find financial issues a bit more difficult in these economic times.  We don't have incomes that are in the millions of dollars.  I would love to go out and see the Reds win everyday, if I could.  I am in a one income family and money must go to what we must have and not what we want to have.  I would think that I am one of millions.  We have to pay for cable in order to watch the home team.  There are no more local, free, network broadcasts like when I was a kid.  You pay for cable and follow the whole season.  The price of a day at the ball game for a family of four is an occasional luxury.  Quit your crying and get in touch.  Be thankful for what you've got!"

Well said Redleg.  I took my daughter to the Rays game Sunday, we sat in the upper deck and I shelled out $70 between parking, tickets and a few refreshments.  So while I love Longo and Price as players they need to get a grip on who/what they are criticising.  There's a lot more to going to a game than just deciding to go.  Tampa Bay has in excess of 10% unemployment, I'm sorry Evan Almighty is embarrased by attendance.



Since: Aug 16, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:50 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

HAHAHAHAHAHHA. You mean that ONE kid who barely knew anything about the Braves? You're credibility has been lost. You just contridicted yourself by telling me i tried to do a "180 turn". For someone that attempted to hurt our feelings by stating we only won 1 World Series during our time of 14* consecutive division titles ( not 11 as you stated) you sure like to flip arguments around. And no just because you want attention to you and the Phillies that piece of trash avatar will never go up on my page. Sorry to dissapoint you. I'm also glad the Yankees avatar caught your attention. Enjoy! Yankees 2010 repeat World Champs!!!!!
      
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First of all maybe YOU should read the comments by BRAVES fans not just 1 non-braves fan. You are the one picking and choosing here. Second any REAL Braves fan would know it was 11 consecutive division titles not 14. They have 14 but not in a row. Maybe you should study up on Yankees history before you put your foot in your mouth again. And thanks for not concidering Phillies avatar. You mke alot of truely loyal fans happy.



Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:50 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

Hey Redtomsawyer,you are so so right, AMEN.....If only we could go back into time and watch the players who played for the love of the game!



Since: Dec 16, 2009
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:45 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

I can understand wanting to play in front of a packed house. It's what we all dreamed about, ever since we were kids. Bottom line, though: Embrace the seats that are filled, and don't criticize the empty ones. The checks you deposit don't bounce. Nothing quite like alienating a fanbase your trying to build up. Mix that in the price hike for tickets, I believe I heard by 30%, and a sizeable distance to travel for the games, and it'll be tough to fill seats.



Since: Jun 22, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:45 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

Even though Price and Longo are correct they might to make their comments after a game when the team actually scores a run.

The drive, the stadium, the location...all excuses for those who just don't want to go.  I've been to games in Texas, Atlanta and Boston and never spent less than an hour getting to the stadium.  Big deal, that's part of going to pro sports games.  Fenway Park is the most uncomfortable park I've ever sat in, baseball or football.  Everyone is entitled to their reasons, but I think the location thing is just an excuse.

My theory:  we have never had the combination of a good team and a good economy at the same time.  There are other factors, such as we have so many transplants that a big % of the population roots for other teams, but I'd like to see how much we would draw in a good economy with a playoff caliber team.




Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:36 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

THis is too bad for the Rays team and organization.  If the fans were loyal they would have had possibly more money to keep this team together.  But if fans don't show they don't get gate money and gate money pays salaries.  Another thing I saw and I know the credibility of the source but it was stated that tv viewership was up 70 %.  If that is the case they had best find some way to get "NESN" or "yankees" network going and cash in this way.  But the fan support of lack there of will result in the break up of a good team.  The team I support(redsox) are out of it and still filling Fenway.  We pay put the wazoo for tickets but the experience is unbelievable.  I will pay 75 dollars to sit in Fenway.  Can I do it 10 times a year? No but to me it is very important to get to Fenway 2-3 times per Year.  Heck I go to Fenway without tickets and get them fro a scalper at gametime for the bleachers for 35 bucks.  So worth it!  The other thing is I love being outside!  Florida has so many beaches and the lifestyle is so different than that of a Northeaster that maybe baseball just isn't the "thing" to do in Florida.  I know Red Sox tickets are a prized commodity around here.  So I understand the players frustrations.  Those frustrations are going to be the sown fall of the organization trying to stay competitive year in and year out because you need the stands full, jerseys being sold, hotdogs and beer being eaten and drank, foam fingers and noise makers being bought etc...to pay salaries.   It also does not look good to keep players in Tampa or lure free agents when you are in first place and empty sections of seat are visable.  Tough situation



Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:34 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

I did read what you posted after that and after Braves fans jumped all over you, you tried to do a 180 which they saw right through. Your post above says it all no matter how you try to squirm out of it. I wonder who's avatar you will put up if Yankees don't prove something to you. Hope you don't consider a Phillies avatar cause we don't want you near our team


HAHAHAHAHAHHA. You mean that ONE kid who barely knew anything about the Braves? You're credibility has been lost. You just contridicted yourself by telling me i tried to do a "180 turn". For someone that attempted to hurt our feelings by stating we only won 1 World Series during our time of 14* consecutive division titles ( not 11 as you stated) you sure like to flip arguments around. And no just because you want attention to you and the Phillies that piece of trash avatar will never go up on my page. Sorry to dissapoint you. I'm also glad the Yankees avatar caught your attention. Enjoy! Yankees 2010 repeat World Champs!!!!!



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:20 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

Stop all this complaining about the costs of a ballgame being way too high.  This doesn't apply in Tampa.  Besides the Padres and the Tigers, the average cost of going to the ballpark in Tampa posted the largest percentage drop from 2009 to 2010.  According to the Team Marketing Research of Chicago, Illinois, the average price of a ticket in Tampa is $19.75 -- $7.00 below the average across MLB of $26.75 -- and the cost of a family of four going a game in Tampa (including seats, beer, food, parking, and programs) dropped 14.8% for 2010 to $141.  Don't tell me that the cost of a game in Tampa is outrageous-- especially compared to the rest of MLB.  The only places it was cheaper for a family of four to go see a game were the Angels, Pirates, Padres, and Diamondbacks.  Bitch about the cost of a game if you're from New York, Boston, Chicago, or Philly-- not Tampa.

The real reason people don't go to a game in Tampa is the ballpark is not conveniently located and the market is too small to support the team consistently.  Even with the team winning the last few years the attendance sucks.  You can't hang that on the players.  Milwaukee has a worse record, exists in a regional market with a population almost a million people smaller and are outdrawing the Rays by over 900,000 people this year.  Oh, and the cost of going to a ballgame in Milwaukee averages $20 more for a family.

I just want somebody to admit that the Tampa market is not suited to year-round support of a Major League ballclub.  This situation is no different than the Coyotes playing in "Phoenix."  They also don't draw enough people and the arena is poorly located.  Both franchises are living, breathing examples of teams that need to move for the sake of the franchise.



Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:18 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

Yet in Detroit the Tigers average TRIPLE the attendence of the Rays, and they have been out of the playoff race for a week. Most fans drive an hour to see them anyway.



Since: Aug 16, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 12:15 pm
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

You can pick and choose the posts i write all day long. Learn to read what i wrote after that, not just pick something and ignore the rest. I'm not caring doesn't mean im not a fan anymore. Go cry kid       
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I did read what you posted after that and after Braves fans jumped all over you, you tried to do a 180 which they saw right through. Your post above says it all no matter how you try to squirm out of it. I wonder who's avatar you will put up if Yankees don't prove something to you. Hope you don't consider a Phillies avatar cause we don't want you near our team.


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