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Players criticize (lack of) fans

Posted on: September 27, 2010 11:14 pm
Edited on: October 19, 2010 11:57 am
 

A couple of crowds on Monday night were not what some of the people on the field wanted them to be, and the players made it known.

The Rays had a chance to clinch a playoff berth with a win at home against the Orioles, and just 12,446 showed up. And it really wasn't even that many -- remember that baseball uses "tickets sold" as attendance, so season tickets count whether the people show up or not. The crowd was just over half Tampa Bay's season average of 23,047.

Rays ace David Price took to his personal Twitter account to complain, writing "Had a chance to clinch a post season spot tonight with about 10,000 fans in the stands....embarrassing."

Tampa third baseman Evan Longoria told the St. Petersburg Times that the small crowds down the stretch are "disheartening" and embarrassing."

In Washington, there were a few more fans -- 14,309. What troubled the Nationals was that way too many of them were Phillies fans there to watch their team clinch the National League East title.

The Washington Post quoted Nats shortstop Ian Desmond as saying it was "kind of embarrassing when everyone in the stadium is clapping against you when you’re at home."

Outfielder Nyjer Morgan had this to say to natsinsider.com:
"Damn, it was a lot louder at our place than it was at their place when we go there. It felt it was a home game for the Phillies."

It's not generally a good business practice to criticize the customers, but sometimes frustration takes over.

UPDATE: After his comment spread across the internet, Price tweeted: "If I offended anyone I apologize I did not think it was gonna turn into this ..."

-- David Andriesen

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Comments

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: September 28, 2010 8:09 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

"I think it's absurd that a player should criticize the people that pay his salary."

But are they really paying his salary?  If less than 10,000 show up for a game and barely 12,000 paid to be here, how much of that meager paid attendance is really going towards player salaries?  In reality, Tampa is primarily paying its players from the revenue divided out by MLB from tv revenue, licensing, and otherwise.  The minimum that any MLB team takes in from TV licensing is in the $12-15 million range while they collect upwards of $40 million from MLB for national tv rights.  While the Rays have had 1.8 million pass through the gates at the ballpark, at an average of $17 per ticket that only amounts to$30.6 million from ticket receipts.

The fact is the local market isn't supporting the Rays and if the players get frustrated, they're right to do so.  Here's a team that's been a contender for the past few seasons but it seems to make no difference in day-to-day attendance.  That's wrong.  Granted, the ballpark sucks and is poorly located.  But there are minor league clubs that come close to averaging what the Rays do.  That's embarrassing.



Since: Jun 5, 2007
Posted on: September 28, 2010 8:09 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

Please only 20 minute drive over the bridge. Bottomline, there is not  enough money and businesses in the whole
Tampa bay area to support Major league teams, that whole area is anti business, and retarded that same thing
would happen in Tampa. Just drive down Columbus avenue and see what I mean, then turn on Hills ave....



Since: Nov 30, 2006
Posted on: September 28, 2010 7:56 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

You have a team in a pennant race going to their second post season in three seasons. In all honesty the Tampa Bay area doesn't deserve a team. I agree 100 percent with both David Price and Evan Longoria it's an embarrassment.



Since: Jan 17, 2009
Posted on: September 28, 2010 7:05 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

It's much easier to drive an hour or two to see a football game once a week, maybe twice a month, but with baseball being played basically 6 times a week that's 12-24 hours a week simply driving too and from the stadium. Add in the time at the games and it's simply not feasible for anybody that doesn't live near the stadium. For those not familiar with the bay, it takes much longer to cross than the San Francisco Bay which separates Oakland and San Francisco. I live in a city called Lakeland which is halfway between Tampa and Orlando and it would easily take me over an hour to get to a Rays game. For somebody living in Orlando it would take over 2 hours. 
Like others have said, when you have to expend so much time to get to a game that is one limiting factor. Another is the economy. If you can barely pay the mortgage (something like one in ten homes are in the foreclosure process in florida) attending baseball games just isn't an option. The economy in Florida is highly dependent on the tourism business, and when the economy is bad in general people do not vacation, which ultimate hurt the pockets of every worker in a service related industry in the state. 



Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: September 28, 2010 6:57 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

In my opinion, it has little to do with the economy and even less to do with ticket prices. The bottom line is the location of that stadium. MOVE THE TEAM TO TAMPA!!!!! If you drew a circle 30 wide with the dome as the center, 40-45% of the geographical area is water (the Gulf of Mexico). Put a new stadium in a near-downtown Tampa venue and watch what happens...the Lightning have been horrible the last two-three seasons yet they have no attendance issues, why? Because they have a great location in TAMPA!!! St Pete is chock full of elderly folks on fixed incomes eating early-bird specials...Tampa has the youth and money to support the team the way it should be supported.  The old Al Lang stadium site would have been nice with homeruns splashing into Tampa Bay in right field.



Since: Jun 9, 2007
Posted on: September 28, 2010 6:48 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

Great post.

""Had a chance to clinch a post season spot tonight with about 10,000 fans in the stands....embarrassing."

And Mr. Price will just have to console himself with his millions of dollars. His comment is more embarassing than a small crowd.




Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 6:21 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

MLB players must not read  or watch the news.  We everyday working stiffs find financial issues a bit more difficult in these economic times.  We don't have incomes that are in the millions of dollars.  I would love to go out and see the Reds win everyday, if I could.  I am in a one income family and money must go to what we must have and not what we want to have.  I would think that I am one of millions.  We have to pay for cable in order to watch the home team.  There are no more local, free, network broadcasts like when I was a kid.  You pay for cable and follow the whole season.  The price of a day at the ball game for a family of four is an occasional luxury.  Quit your crying and get in touch.  Be thankful for what you've got!


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Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 4:14 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

So Sorry to disagree. BUT--we can fill more fans in our seats at the Durham Bulls games than you can in Tampa! Imagine what it is like for those young kids to go from there to Tampa. Based on the ticket information you are dead wrong --the prices are indeed lower! Your comments on the players is WAY off base. Your salary structure is way low compared to any winning team in all of the MLB. In fact the true fans know that you will not be able to sign any of the soon to be free agents on your club to long term contracts. Ownership has been very creative to find the right players to fill voids and use their draft and farm system to bring to Tampa the BEST team in the AL money can buy! PERIOD. For the prices you pay to see games to the prices they pay to their players on both counts you are dead wrong. The Place is a pit and may be part of the problem but no all.
 Cities that host the Marlins and Pirates do not deserve the ownership they have but yours is very much the opposite---it is NOT Price or the players or the ownership it is North Florida and time to figure out why. 



Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 4:14 am
 

Players criticize (lack of) fans

So Sorry to disagree. BUT--we can fill more fans in our seats at the Durham Bulls games than you can in Tampa! Imagine what it is like for those young kids to go from there to Tampa. Based on the ticket information you are dead wrong --the prices are indeed lower! Your comments on the players is WAY off base. Your salary structure is way low compared to any winning team in all of the MLB. In fact the true fans know that you will not be able to sign any of the soon to be free agents on your club to long term contracts. Ownership has been very creative to find the right players to fill voids and use their draft and farm system to bring to Tampa the BEST team in the AL money can buy! PERIOD. For the prices you pay to see games to the prices they pay to their players on both counts you are dead wrong. The Place is a pit and may be part of the problem but no all.
 Cities that host the Marlins and Pirates do not deserve the ownership they have but yours is very much the opposite---it is NOT Price or the players or the ownership it is North Florida and time to figure out why. 


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