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Jeter wins another Gold Glove

Posted on: November 9, 2010 4:06 pm
Edited on: April 18, 2011 12:28 pm
Oh, as we complain again and again about the Baseball Writers Association of America and their votes for MVP and Cy Young, the coaches and managers once again show they're not a better committee to choose the biggest awards in the game.

Exhibit A: Derek Jeter, Gold Glover.

Derek Jeter Yep, Jeter won the Gold Glove again on Tuesday in a vote from American League coaches and managers. Derek Jeter with a -5.4 UZR/150, -13 runs saved and -17 plus/minus, was determined by the coaches and managers to be the best defensive shortstop in the American League. Among qualified players, only Tampa Bay's Jason Bartlett (-13.8) and Kansas City's Yuniesky Betancourt (-9.2) had a worse UZR/150.

Sure, Jeter had just six errors, but the idea that errors tell you much about a player's defense is preposterous. It tells you who is able to make the routine plays best. That's well and good, but it has little to do with the best all-around defensive player. Jeter has the range of, well, a mediocre 36-year old defensive player. (You know how many times you see Jeter go into the hole and doing that leaping throw, but doesn't quite get the runner? Oh, what a gutty play, he doesn't get an E. Thing is, most other shortstops don't have to make that jump and get the runner.)

Who would be a better choice? Well, who wouldn't?

The Fielding Bible Awards had Chicago's Alexei Ramirez as its third-place finisher, and best among AL players. Ramirez's UZR/150 was 10.1, he had 16 runs saved and a 20 plus/minus.

In UZR/150, Ramirez was trailed by Oakland's Cliff Pennington (8.8), Baltimore's Cesar Izturis (5.8) and Texas' Elvis Andrus (0.3), among qualified players.

The Gold Gloves have been one of those openly mocked selections since a designated hitter won one in 1999 (Rafael Palmeiro). Defense, even in this day and age of advanced statistics, is still highly subjective, with reputation playing more of a role than production. That's what the Gold Glove tells us every year. It also tells us the coaches and managers have as much of a Yankee bias as the media is accused of having.

Alex Rodriguez was the only Yankee infielder not to be awarded, even though the advanced statistics liked Oakland's infield much more.

Mark Teixeira won at first base, even though Oakland's Daric Barton was likely the best choice. Mark Ellis had the top UZR/150 among second basemen (12.7), but the winner was Robinson Cano (-0.9).  Also deserving at second would be Minnesota's Orlando Hudson (12.0 UZR/150). Hudson was the top AL vote-getter in the Fielding Bible Awards, while Ellis was behind him.

As for the outfield, that's probably where a Yankee was actually left off. Left fielder Brett Gardner had the best UZR/150 of any qualified outfielders with a 27.9. He also won the Fielding Bible Award in left field.

American League Gold Glove winners
P Mark Buehrle, White Sox
C Joe Mauer, Twins
1B Mark Teixeira, Yankees
2B Robinson Cano, Yankees
3B Evan Longoria, Rays
SS Derek Jeter, Yankees
OF Carl Crawford, Rays
OF Franklin Gutierrez, Mariners
OF Ichiro Suzuki, Mariners

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: November 9, 2010 6:17 pm

Jeter wins another Gold Glove

I didn't use just UZR/150, also used Plus/Minus and Runs Saved.

I'm not sure there's a great defensive metric out there -- but UZR is about the best we've got. I will agree that it seems to do better on outfielders than infielders. Still, think it's important to have three-seasons worth of data, but then this is a single-season award and it's tough to pick out. Anything's better than fielding percentage. There are some bad (and many good) official scorers out there and they're also bound more by the rulebook than by common sense.

I don't think Cano or Teixeira are objectionable, they're fine. I think there are better options (as said, Hudson, Barton -- but Barton doesn't hit enough to win this award), but neither is bad.

Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2010 5:41 pm

Jeter wins another Gold Glove

look, i wont argue that derek jeter should not have wont the award, but going by UZR alone is a huge mistake. from what i have noticed, UZR does an amazing job rating outfieldings and a terrible job rating infielders. i do think mark texiera deserved the award, or at least its not unreasonable that he won it. i also think that robinson cano had a legitimate shot at the award, as both are very very good fielders. i dont care what UZR says because i find myself disagreeing with it more often then not. that being said, derek jeter should not have won the GG.

Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: November 9, 2010 5:27 pm

Jeter wins another Gold Glove

Bartlett had a +6 in the plus/minus

I don't think there's a great defensive metric yet -- but still like UZR/150 best of all. And it's all 1,000 times better than fielding percentage.

-- CTR

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2010 5:22 pm

Jeter wins another Gold Glove

He might not hit many home runs, but this guy is a future HOF inductee and knows how to play SS... For his age, competing with younger SS's, this kid can do the job... No one goes into the hole between third and short to catch, jump and throw out baserunners like Jeter... He has yet to loose a step playing shortstop... Congrats Derek...

Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: November 9, 2010 4:49 pm

Jeter wins another Gold Glove

And the fact that Bartlett's UZR was at the bottom of the league shows the UZR is not a good way to make this judgement. 
Jeter may not deserve the award. 
But some of these new age stats are quickly becoming over-used and over-rated. 

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