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Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

Posted on: November 11, 2010 10:19 am
 
Jayson Werth Not all national writers are the same when it comes to certain teams. All national baseball writers have to live somewhere and start somewhere. That's why when it comes to Phillies stuff, if I hear it from ESPN's Jayson Stark, I take it to the bank.

Stark talked to a "Phillies source" on the odds Philadelphia can bring back Jayson Werth. The answer? "No chance. None. Zero."

Stark says it's not the money as much as the years, as the Phillies don't want to be tied down to Werth in his advanced years. Werth will turn 32 next season and will be looking for a long-term contract, five or six years. With Domonic Brown coming, Philadelphia doesn't what to be hamstrung with an aging Werth.

An interesting addition, Stark throws Jeff Francoeur as a name out there as a stop-gap solution for Philly.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Since: Nov 12, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 8:23 am
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

I'm so glad he's leaving Philly....He's been kicking our ass, and is the main reason the Rockies weren't in the playoffs this year. Hey Jason any chance you might want to come out west? Seriously, Jason Werth is the best Free Agent out there, and I would love to see him in a Rockies Uni...



Since: Dec 29, 2007
Posted on: November 12, 2010 3:27 am
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

Mediocre year at best? A .296 average with 27 HRs and 85 RBIs is far from mediocre. Those are all-star caliber numbers. Mediocre is more like 16 HRs with a .275 average. BTW, those are Ibanez's numbers.



Since: Nov 12, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 2:11 am
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

Trust me, I live in Philadelphia.  Werth ain't coming back here.  First, he had a mediocre year AT BEST.  Second, he had some issues with the fans in right field about 110 to 120 games into the season.  That's never a good sign, especially here bc everyone knows that you will hear about your bad play in Philly.  You'll hear it on TV, the radio, as you're driving on I-95 (people will shout out the window as they go by), as you're walking into the stadium, as you're taking bp, while you're playing the field, while you're on deck, as you're leaving the field as the game ends, and on your way back to your car to go home.  And God forbid you go out in public.  He showed a little crack in the armor and that won't fly here.  Finally, the Phils will never spend the money....EVER.  BANK ON IT BUDDY!!! 



Since: Jul 26, 2007
Posted on: November 11, 2010 11:33 pm
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

Werth is no Raul Ibanez.....um... cuz he ain't that old. Werth's biggest problem is is agent....start and end of the problem. Someone wil end up signing him for 5 or 6 years, but when speed, and ability to cover  an dplay OF are a big part of your game.. good luck! I LOVE the guy.. he played great for us!
 Intersting article earlier this week about Dan Uggla turning down a great contract... it went on to say his stats were  similar to Werth's, which surprised me. Philli just raised ticked prices, even though they have over 120 straight sell-outs....so they/we..YES I'm a Philly fan...have $$$.... hmm... make  a move, just get someone under 30!



Since: Nov 13, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2010 11:23 pm
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

Its not a "negotiating strategy."  Get used to it.  Werth will be gone from Philly and will sign with the New York Mets.



Since: Dec 28, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2010 11:01 pm
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

It could be some kind of negotiating strategy by the Phils to leak that there is "zero chance of signing him" and then later get involved in negotiations and sign him anyway.  But the Phillies often follow Gillick's approch to signings by not giving long contracts of more than four years and not giving "no trade" clauses.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 11, 2010 10:18 pm
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

Yawkey Way - I think if you were reading my comment I didn't likely construe it the best way.  I mean we have an older guy in Drew who is enough problem that picking up Werth for 5 years is not a smart move.

Now if he was available at a decent price for 2-3 it might work, but I would rather see many other players in our outfield first before we go to Werth.




Since: Nov 11, 2010
Posted on: November 11, 2010 9:52 pm
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

swatto... are you an idiot? you must be a front running phillies fan or just someone trying to make a comment about what you dont know. Werth has been known to not be completely concentrated in the game. For example, staring around the sky while being picked off second base this season.



Since: May 17, 2007
Posted on: November 11, 2010 9:51 pm
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

At 32 no team should be giving him a five or six year deal.  I like the guy as a player but you have to be stupid to give a guy that age that kind of contract.  Once again one of the big teams does something smart and the rest of the league is poorer for it.  The Yankees still appear to like giving old folks contracts they can never live up too.



Since: Nov 11, 2010
Posted on: November 11, 2010 9:22 pm
 

Report: 'Zero' chance Werth stays in Philly

I think Jason Stark probably has it right. I also have faith that Rueben Amaro will get it right but if they lose Worth how do you replace his right-handed bat? Replacing Worth with Domonic Brown makes the Phillies lineup even more one-sided. If Worth leaves there are only limited options to replace his RH bat. I actually like the thought of picking up Francoeur to face lefties but you need a guy who can play regularly in case of injury and Francoeur has proven he is not an every day player. 

I do think the Phils can make the money work. They have $12M from Houston in the Oswalt trade (thanks Ed Wade, we're even now). They also have raised ticket prices for 2011 and they will have a new local TV/Radio deal with significant upside. After next season Ibanez's deal expires so Worth's new contract could be handled without upsetting the economics. The Phils signed Ibanez at 36 for three years, I would rather take the chance on a 32 y/o Worth for 5 years.

If the Phils don't re-sign Worth then the Phils may have to make a trade. If they do that does losing Worth and whoever is traded affect their mojo? The Phils have the pitching set to make at least two more runs, they can't let that opportunity slip away. As I said earlier I have faith that Rueben will get this right but letting Worth go will make him have to work harder.  


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