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Braves land Uggla

Posted on: November 16, 2010 5:37 pm
Edited on: November 16, 2010 6:50 pm
 
Dan Uggla
The Marlins are clearly not waiting for the market to be set this winter, jumping out of the gate with multiple deals. After making two trades last week, Tuesday afternoon they completed their second big transaction of the day, sending All-Star second baseman Dan Uggla to Atlanta.

The writing was on the wall for this one earlier Tuesday when the Marlins closed a three-year, $18 million deal for catcher John Buck. The size of that deal indicated the Marlins were not going to be able to commit big money to an Uggla extension -- the second baseman reportedly turned down a four-year, $48 million offer, and Florida started shopping him shortly thereafter.

The players coming back to Miami are 2010 All-Star utility man Omar Infante and reliever Mike Dunn. Infante, like Uggla eligible for free agency after next season, batted .321 last season while playing second, third, shortstop and all three outfield positions. Left-hander Dunn, a former Yankee, bounced between Triple-A and the majors last season, putting up a 1.89 ERA in 25 major-league appearances.

One thing that's not immediately clear is where the Braves intend to play Uggla. Martin Prado is the incumbent at second, but he'll probably get supplanted by Uggla and play some first base and spell Chipper Jones at third. Prado could also play in the outfield.

There's no indication that extensions for either Uggla or Infante are part of the deal.

-- David Andriesen

UPDATE: Frank Wren said on MLB Network that the Braves plan on moving Prado to left field to make room for Uggla.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Comments

Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: November 20, 2010 7:25 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

Whoops looks like the numbers didn't go through...
Dan Uggla:
2009: 31 90
2008: 32 92
2007: 31 88



Chase Utley:
2009: 31 93
2008: 33 104
2007: 22 103



Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: November 20, 2010 7:20 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

Why would Philly be jealous?  We have Utley, who is definitely better than Dan "No Hands" Uggla.  Uggla is purely a power hitter and a huge defensive liability.  Utley hits for a higher average and is hands down better defensively than Uggla.


I don't think you realise how close they are offensively, arguably Dan Uggla is better. If we look at the past 3 years of their numbers(i'll throw out 2010 for Utley since he was injured)

Dan Uggla:     
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2009: 31 hr 90 rbi     &n
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p;     200
9: 31 hr 93 rbi
2008: 32 hr 92 rbi     &n
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p;     2008: 33 hr 104 rbi
2007: 31hr 88 rbi     &n
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p;      2007: 22 hr 103 rbi



With all that being said, Uggla didn't have much or near as much quality of the talent level Atlanta has, surrounding him in Florida, therefore his numbers should be even better then they were in 2010, Utley better defensively? Absolutely. Offensively? It's closer then you think.



Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: November 17, 2010 9:32 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

How do you not get this? They ARE listening to offers. They just have said that they DO NOT nedd to move him. If they come out and say that they have to trade him, they lose ALL LEVERAGE!!

"We're not shopping Prince,'' said the Brewers GM. "I'd like to keep him. He's a homegrown player who wants to play every inning of every game. But we'd like to get something done by the end of the off-season. I don't want to negotiate during the year.''




Since: Dec 5, 2009
Posted on: November 17, 2010 7:09 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

I must have not made my point clear enough, go look at their MLB stats not their minor leagues(which were even better) Venters was arguably bad in the Minors and has put up impressive Rookie numbers.

Looking at ML numbers with such a miniscule sample size is useless. How many guys do you need me to name that came up and had dominant Septembers but never had much of a career to get that?

Off the top of my head?
 
Zach Duke.

1.81 ERA in his first trip through the league in '05.

4.54 career.



Since: Dec 5, 2009
Posted on: November 17, 2010 7:04 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

the only other place is Prince, why hes not listening to offers i have no idea.

How do you not get this? They ARE listening to offers. They just have said that they DO NOT nedd to move him. If they come out and say that they have to trade him, they lose ALL LEVERAGE!!



Since: Dec 5, 2009
Posted on: November 17, 2010 7:02 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

Atlanta 3rd in team ERA is elite. Wrong again numbnuts, try harder. Funny how we outpitch the Giants but our defense let us down in the NLDS they won by 2 runs on errors which decided the games. Fail!

Read, comprehend, react........

What I said was that the Braves were closer to middle of the pack than they were to the Giants. Check the numbers again and tell me where I was wrong.

You, in your infinite thickheadedness, are the only person on the planet who actually believes that the Braves have an elite staff.

They are good, and I have never denied that. But, they are no where near elite.





Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: November 17, 2010 7:00 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

Ever heard of Todd Van Poppel? Brien Taylor?

Minor league numbers are just that. MINOR LEAGUE NUMBERS!

You said an elite pitching staff. You didn't say an elite pitching staff counting minor league numbers. Big difference dunderhead. And really, if you want to look at minor league arms, check out Mark Rogers, Jeremy Jeffress, Jake Odorizzi, etc.....

The Brewers have a handful of elite minor league pitching prospects. Guess what? It doesn't matter one iota until they produce on the major league level



I must have not made my point clear enough, go look at their MLB stats not their minor leagues(which were even better) Venters was arguably bad in the Minors and has put up impressive Rookie numbers.




Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: November 17, 2010 6:58 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

If you cannot grasp the simple concept of contract status, then you are beyond help. Please, enlighten me to the statue of Tex's contract when that deal was made.

Put another way......

If Texas had Texiera locked up under Braun's current deal, that trade NEVER would have happened.




True however the Brewers are in a spot where they need pitching help desperatley and HAVE TO make a move somewhere the only other place is Prince, why hes not listening to offers i have no idea.



Since: Dec 5, 2009
Posted on: November 17, 2010 6:57 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

Ahh and the jealousy is back, ever heard of Craig Kimbrel? go look at his stats, and while you're there look at Jonny Venters too and tell me those arent elite stats for Rookies

Ever heard of Todd Van Poppel? Brien Taylor?

Minor league numbers are just that. MINOR LEAGUE NUMBERS!

You said an elite pitching staff. You didn't say an elite pitching staff counting minor league numbers. Big difference dunderhead. And really, if you want to look at minor league arms, check out Mark Rogers, Jeremy Jeffress, Jake Odorizzi, etc.....

The Brewers have a handful of elite minor league pitching prospects. Guess what? It doesn't matter one iota until they produce on the major league level.



Since: Dec 5, 2009
Posted on: November 17, 2010 6:52 pm
 

Braves land Uggla

you're dumber than i thought. I said he would be stupid to not Listen. Look what we gave Texas in the Teixiera deal numbnuts, they got 2 all stars in feliz and andrus for 2 half season rentals of tex.

If you cannot grasp the simple concept of contract status, then you are beyond help. Please, enlighten me to the statue of Tex's contract when that deal was made.

Put another way......

If Texas had Texiera locked up under Braun's current deal, that trade NEVER would have happened.


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