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Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

Posted on: November 26, 2010 9:53 am
Edited on: November 26, 2010 4:34 pm
 
Derek Jeter
Late last season, Major League Baseball and the players association reached an agreement to stop discussing contract negotiations through the media. And just weeks ago, the Yankees and Casey Close, the agent for free-agent shortstop Derek Jeter, agreed not to disclose their negotiating positions.

And yet here we are, not surprisingly, with everybody's laundry hanging out on the public clothesline. The Yankees, we learned earlier in the week, have offered Jeter three years at $45 million. And now, Bill Madden of the New York Daily News reports that it's thought Jeter's starting point is six years at $150 million -- and that he's unwilling to budge from the annual value of $25 million.

The Yankees have taken a hard line, saying this is a baseball contract, not a golden parachute, and Jeter is a 36-year-old infielder coming off his worst season. Add the $45 million, which is significantly over market in a strict baseball sense, to the $200 million the Yankees have already paid Jeter, and he'll have earned more money than anyone in baseball history not named Alex Rodriguez.

Close, however, is seeking a lifetime achievement award that recognizes Jeter's iconic status and the hidden value of having Captain Clutch in pinstripes. In what I'm sure just is a coincidence, the average annual value of the seven remaining years of Alex Rodriguez's contract is $24.9 million, but as Madden points out, the circumstances of A-Rod's contract were much different than Jeter's situation. Rodriguez was coming off a monster year as the Yankees' cleanup hitter, was 32 and appeared certain to be on his way to becoming the all-time home run leader (and word of his steroid use had not yet come out).

There's simply no way the Yankees, even with their financial means, can pay Jeter $25 million a year -- especially considering that since they pay a 40-percent luxury tax, it would cost them considerably more than that. And there's little chance someone else is going to pay Jeter more than the $15 million a year the Yankees are offering. So Jeter is going to have to find a way to soften his stance while not looking like he caved.

UPDATE: Close responded to several media requests for comment with a statement that the report of Jeter's position is "simply inaccurate," and declined to elaborate. If Jeter's demands are substantially less than the 6/$150M report, don't be surpised to see a specific number leak later today -- Close's client is getting roasted in the court of public opinion.

-- David Andriesen

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Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: November 29, 2010 4:57 pm
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

We've encouraged him to test the market and see if there's something he would prefer other than this," general manager Brian Cashman told ESPNNewYork.com, without confirming the figure. "If he can, fine. That's the way it works."

You wanted me to post a link -- I posted the EXACT quote from your GM. 

As far as your Johnny Damon/Brett Garnder reason why Jeter's average dropped -- Here are the stats:
2010 Gardner hit .278 with a .385 OBP
2009 Damon hit. 282 with a .365 OBP

So can you tell me again having Damon over Gardner raised Jeter's batting average????

I'll leave at those two comments right now -- so we don't end up with a mile long post again.  If there is anything else you'd like me to respond to, let me know.



Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2010 1:14 pm
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

What part of Jeter batted leadoff and Peralta batted in the 5th or 6th spot.  OBVIOUSLY Jeter is going to have MANY more opportunities to score after he gets on base when he has Texeira, ARod and Swisher hitting behind him.  Peralta had Brandon Inge, Gerald Laird, and a slew of 2nd basemen from our AAA team (Sizemore, Rhymes, etc.)

Then why did YOU bring up Peralta? It wsa a stupid comparison made  by a stupid person.


At one point this year, Detroit had SIX AAA players starting for them in a single game.  Also as I stated -- Jeter had 110+ more at bats than Peralta as well.

Once again you compared the wrong guy to Jeter...your fault for the stupidity.

As far as the 'revenue' Jeter brings to the Yankees, you have to be joking. 

No I am not, and the fact that you don't recognize this or even read the link I posted shows your lack of knowledge in this discussion.


He has made 200 million bux playing a game. 

He has made 200 million playing a game that only a small amount of people world wide can play at that level. His salary is a result of the professions revenues...are you suggesting the owners pay the players 65,000 a year and pocket the rest?.....I know your not this dumb.

 This is only his salary. 

An outstanding observation!

This doesn't include endorsements.  Is Jeter giving the Yankees a cut of his endorsement deals?  Only reason he is getting them is because he plays for the Yankees.

Do the Yankees give a Jeter a cut of the Jersey and merchandising sales? he is only getting his endorsments because he plays for the Yankees? So being a top SS for most of his carrer and being known as  clutch performer had nothing to do with it? Ask Chad Curtis about his endorsements deals

I don't understand how you can't get this thru you thick head.  Baseball is a BUSINESS. 

 In one sentace your critizing Jeters salary...yet here you are calling baseball a business...see the disconnect...if you knew about the business aspect of the game you never would have mentioed his salary.



Players aren't paid for what they can 'potentially' make the team.  They are paid for their performance on the field. 

You're really a retard. Are you suggesting Jeter has no market value to the Yankees? Are you suggesting that Jeter will not make the franchise more money when he gets his 3000 hit? When Puljos's contract is up you don't think the Cards will pay him not only for his perfromance but for what he brings to the team (ticket sales, Jersey sales, merchandise) your not this dumb? Unless your a young kid who knows nothing of the BUSINESS they just tried to speak of.


The reason the Yankees make so much as a team isn't because of Derek Jeter --

Never said it was all because of Jeter...But your ignorant not to think that Jeter contributes to the teams earnings


It is because of the location of the team.  NYC is 3 times larger than the next biggest city in the US.  It's the reason they have their own TV station.  It's the reason they charge out what they want on tickets.  It's the reason they have so much sales of team jerseys, etc.  It's not just the biggest market in the US.  It is the biggest market by a landslide.

Of course location plays a part...but as it was stated in the article you failed to read, Jeter brings in roughly 20million a season on his name alone and as a business the Yankees would not let that walk away.

I'll give you a tip -- The yankees survived after Babe Ruth, they survived after Mickey Mantle and Lou Gehrig too.  They are going to survive without Derek Jeter as well.

That's a tip...LMAO...Has anyone said the Yankees won't survive without Jeter? Your silly kiddo....The Yankees raped Ruth, Mantle and

Gehrig monetarily. All Jeter is doing is trying to make the most he can and he realizes that his name still holds value to the Yankees...this is why the Yankees will pay him roughly 20 million per season...economics 101


Go ahead and look at what other SS's in the MLB make and compare their numbers to Jeter's last year.  It's the reason people are turning their back on Jeter after being a fan of his after so many years. 

WHO? Many people are calling up the WFAN in NY and saying they will cancel their season tickets if he is not signed...I would agree the Country wide the feeling might be different.



The guy is 36 years old.  He is asking to be paid like a superstar in his prime, while putting up numbers like a role player.  The contract they offered him already is a joke.  He isn't even worth 15 million a year.

He is asking to get paid what he feels he is worth to the team..His numbers are not that of role player, as I already shown and unless your in denial its pretty obvious.


There is a reason you have yet to hear all these teams lining up to sign Jeter, as he has been told to test the market.  NO ONE is going to come with 8 or 9 million a year of that contract.

Link please to show where it was said Jeter was told to test the market. No one is going to offer him anything becasue everyone knows where he is going to end up.

Also -- since you seem to think Jeter is going to bounce back and hit .300 --

OK...so it is now offically confirmed that your an idiot...I never he will bounce back...go ahead re-read it and post it back and look foolish ....again.

 name me one other shortstop at the age of 36-40, who hit in the .300's.

It has to be a SS? According to you any players at this age will have a slowed swing so it should apply to all players.

Also -- your comments regarding jeter's strikeout totals being because of Johnny Damon not batting behind him is also as humorous as the contract Jeter is asking for.  Jeter batted leadoff.  You make it sound like he was chasing pitches because he didn't have anyone hitting behind him.  LMAO  That comment alone shows your ignorance.

NO ..you did not just....hold on....HAHAHAHAHA...I could not help it...You mean to say you don't realize the importance of a guy like Damon hitting behind Jeter...you don't understrand how a pitcher would rather try to get Jeter out more so with Damon at number 2 then Brett Gardner....Oh man

I hope the Yankees give him 25 million a year -- It'll make the Yankees the laughinstock of the MLB. 

I see, you still don't follow the latest news since 25 million is no longer being asked for by Jeters agent since Thursday.
hat contract would top the list of the worst signings in Yankee history.  Signing an aging SS coming off a 10 hr .270 season to an enormous contract because of his 'intangibles'.  LMAO

Still don't get the economics of it and your assumption is clearly overstated.

The so called heart and soul of the Yankees has led the Yankees to 1 WS Title during his previous 10 year 189 million dollar contract.  Why not sign him to another 100 million dollar contract.  LMAO  The yankees can pay 58 million a year for Jeter and ARod when they are 40 years old manning the left side of your infield. 

And that's all Jeter fault I suppose...truely a retard....Thanks for the post and making yourself look like a complete fool



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: November 29, 2010 11:28 am
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

What part of Jeter batted leadoff and Peralta batted in the 5th or 6th spot.  OBVIOUSLY Jeter is going to have MANY more opportunities to score after he gets on base when he has Texeira, ARod and Swisher hitting behind him.  Peralta had Brandon Inge, Gerald Laird, and a slew of 2nd basemen from our AAA team (Sizemore, Rhymes, etc.)

At one point this year, Detroit had SIX AAA players starting for them in a single game.  Also as I stated -- Jeter had 110+ more at bats than Peralta as well.

As far as the 'revenue' Jeter brings to the Yankees, you have to be joking.  He has made 200 million bux playing a game.  This is only his salary.  This doesn't include endorsements.  Is Jeter giving the Yankees a cut of his endorsement deals?  Only reason he is getting them is because he plays for the Yankees.

I don't understand how you can't get this thru you thick head.  Baseball is a BUSINESS.  Players aren't paid for what they can 'potentially' make the team.  They are paid for their performance on the field.  The reason the Yankees make so much as a team isn't because of Derek Jeter -- It is because of the location of the team.  NYC is 3 times larger than the next biggest city in the US.  It's the reason they have their own TV station.  It's the reason they charge out what they want on tickets.  It's the reason they have so much sales of team jerseys, etc.  It's not just the biggest market in the US.  It is the biggest market by a landslide.

I'll give you a tip -- The yankees survived after Babe Ruth, they survived after Mickey Mantle and Lou Gehrig too.  They are going to survive without Derek Jeter as well.

Go ahead and look at what other SS's in the MLB make and compare their numbers to Jeter's last year.  It's the reason people are turning their back on Jeter after being a fan of his after so many years.  The guy is 36 years old.  He is asking to be paid like a superstar in his prime, while putting up numbers like a role player.  The contract they offered him already is a joke.  He isn't even worth 15 million a year.

There is a reason you have yet to hear all these teams lining up to sign Jeter, as he has been told to test the market.  NO ONE is going to come with 8 or 9 million a year of that contract.

Also -- since you seem to think Jeter is going to bounce back and hit .300 -- name me one other shortstop at the age of 36-40, who hit in the .300's.

Also -- your comments regarding jeter's strikeout totals being because of Johnny Damon not batting behind him is also as humorous as the contract Jeter is asking for.  Jeter batted leadoff.  You make it sound like he was chasing pitches because he didn't have anyone hitting behind him.  LMAO  That comment alone shows your ignorance.

I hope the Yankees give him 25 million a year -- It'll make the Yankees the laughinstock of the MLB.  That contract would top the list of the worst signings in Yankee history.  Signing an aging SS coming off a 10 hr .270 season to an enormous contract because of his 'intangibles'.  LMAO

The so called heart and soul of the Yankees has led the Yankees to 1 WS Title during his previous 10 year 189 million dollar contract.  Why not sign him to another 100 million dollar contract.  LMAO  The yankees can pay 58 million a year for Jeter and ARod when they are 40 years old manning the left side of your infield. 



Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2010 8:24 am
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

* Peralta's team scored just under 100 less then the Yankees and had the same avg while Andrus, who played on the Rangers, the team with the highest team avg  and just under 70 runs less.



Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2010 8:15 am
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

When did I say he was a top SS??? Can you show that?

Umm -- OK, how about you look a couple posts below the one had just made. 

Despite his age he was still stats wise one of the top SS in baseaball

Here you go - Copied it word for word for you.

WOW!..you have a reading problem..it's all so clear. I said STAT WISE HE WAS ONE OF...I never he was A TOP SS. I never gave my personal opinion I spoke towards his stats...surely your not this dumb.

How many runs scored did Peralta have? how many Hits did Peralta have? which of the two hit 20 points lower than the other? Who brings in more revenue to their respective team? ..Come on kid your not this dumb to draw this comparison?

Peralta is going to make around 20 million LESS a year than Jeter will get.  I only drew this comparison as it's the SS Detroit just signed and I knew his numbers off hand.  I already agreed Jeter has a better bat than Peralta, but the numbers aren't far off.  Your comment regarding run scored is a product of the team you play on.  The yankees led all of baseball in runs scored.  Peralta also bats 6th for Detroit, not leadoff like Jeter does, so OF COURSE jeter will have more runs scored.

It was a bad comparison period..you never spoke to the revenue that Peralta brings.....hold on thats right he means n othing to Tigers. As fo Runs scored...you still have to find your way on base to score and the Rangers had the highest team avg while scoring just under 70 runs less then the Yankees.

Refund??? For scoring the most runs of any leadoff hitter and SS in baseball and being in the top 10 in hits, first among leadoff hitters..your making yourself look bad here.

He was paid 19 million -- he scored the same amount of runs as the cleanup hitter for Detroit.  And why do you keep saying he is in the top 10 for SS in this category or that category like it's an accomplishment?  For the money he is asking for, he should be the top player at this position in EVERY category.

Really?? is Arod top 10 in every? is Puljos? go ahead ahead a look it up....Stupid comment

I don't have the time to go thru the rest of your post.  All I know is if Jeter is worth 25 million a year at 36 years old -- what would the Yankees give Hanley Ramirez to play SS??  50 million??  I will get back to this post tomorrow.

Ahhh..I never said Jeter is worth 25 million but more like 20 million...and your little brain still does not see the economics involved...What does jeter bring to Yankees in the way of money...look at the link I attached earlier..and please don't respond your making yourself look foolish with your attemps at making points.





Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: November 28, 2010 11:10 pm
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

When did I say he was a top SS??? Can you show that?

Umm -- OK, how about you look a couple posts below the one had just made. 

Despite his age he was still stats wise one of the top SS in baseaball

Here you go - Copied it word for word for you.

How many runs scored did Peralta have? how many Hits did Peralta have? which of the two hit 20 points lower than the other? Who brings in more revenue to their respective team? ..Come on kid your not this dumb to draw this comparison?

Peralta is going to make around 20 million LESS a year than Jeter will get.  I only drew this comparison as it's the SS Detroit just signed and I knew his numbers off hand.  I already agreed Jeter has a better bat than Peralta, but the numbers aren't far off.  Your comment regarding run scored is a product of the team you play on.  The yankees led all of baseball in runs scored.  Peralta also bats 6th for Detroit, not leadoff like Jeter does, so OF COURSE jeter will have more runs scored.

Refund??? For scoring the most runs of any leadoff hitter and SS in baseball and being in the top 10 in hits, first among leadoff hitters..your making yourself look bad here.

He was paid 19 million -- he scored the same amount of runs as the cleanup hitter for Detroit.  And why do you keep saying he is in the top 10 for SS in this category or that category like it's an accomplishment?  For the money he is asking for, he should be the top player at this position in EVERY category.

I don't have the time to go thru the rest of your post.  All I know is if Jeter is worth 25 million a year at 36 years old -- what would the Yankees give Hanley Ramirez to play SS??  50 million??  I will get back to this post tomorrow.





Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2010 5:58 pm
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

Bklyn77,

Jeter hit .270 with 10 homeruns and 60 something rbi's.  Explain to me again how stat wise he was one of the top SS's last year? 

When did I say he was a top SS??? Can you show that? What I do know is that he was top 10 among all MLB SS in AB, Runs, Hits, RBI, Doubles and Stolen bases. I can safely say he was one of the top 10 SS in all of baseball last year..his numbers prove that much.



 He won a gold glove, but his range is NOWHERE near what it once was and his arm strength isn't the same either. 

I agree his range is not as it once was but his GG is proof that he can still make the plays when the ball is hit to him. Fewest errors highest fielding% still hold some value.


Peralta hit .250 with 18 homeruns and 81 rbi's last year and signed for 5 million this year.  Guess which two shortstops are said to have the worst range in baseball.  Peralta and Jeter.  Yet Jeter wants 23-25 million a year?

How many runs scored did Peralta have? how many Hits did Peralta have? which of the two hit 20 points lower than the other? Who brings in more revenue to their respective team? ..Come on kid your not this dumb to draw this comparison?

Baseball players don't bounce back and find the fountain of youth when they are past their mid 30's.  It's a fact of life. 

 So hitting 300 is out of the question? If he hits 300 and maintains is Runs, RBI, Doubles and HR (he was tied for 11th) I bet people will call it a bounce back when all he did was hit near his carrer avg. 


Unless you are Barry Bonds and running cycles of steroids, it doesn't happen. 

ad comparison to your comments..bouncing back is possible however, what Bonds did was actually get better...big differance kiddo.

To think Jeter is going to come back next year and his range is going to be improved at SS or his arm strength is going to be better is foolish.  Same as thinking his batting average is going to jump into the .300's again.

Really...he can't hit 300 again? He is 1 year removed from a + 300 season...what are examples to back this claim?

As you get older, you bat speed slows down.  Pitches you used to pull are now hit opposite field.  There is a reason he struck out 100+ times last year.  He is getting older. 

So your certain that 1 bad year and his bat speed is so far diminshed that he can't hit 300 again..and how can you say with certainty that his SO are a direct result of bat speed...He did not have Damon hitting behind him and Jeter swung at more balls out of the strike zone that he has in previous years, which is more of a result of his high K total then your theory of his bat speed being diminished.


 I see you listed his errors and fielding % -- do you know how many fewer balls he got to at SS than the younger version of him?  Both Andrus and Ramirez had over 200 more chances than Jeter.  Some of that is due to pitching, but alot of it is because they have range at SS and get to balls Jeter used to be able to, but doesn't anymore.

Kid, where are you going wiht this....he made the least erros period his chances are more to do with the pitching then anything else, his range is not what it was but to attribute 200 plus chance as a result of range is unproven.


As far as what the Yankees make off a player -- Last I checked, it has nothing to do with what a player gets paid.  A player gets paid for his performance on the field.  Go look at the players getting paid 20+ million a year and compare their stats to Jeter's and you tell me if he deserves that kind of money?!?!  It's a joke and is making Jeter a laughinstock for even asking for that absurd amount after the year he had.

Your right, a first ballot hall of famer has no right to ask for what he is asking for. Especially when that hall of famer is making hs franchise absurds amounts of money.

The Yankees owe him nothing -- He has made over 200 million dollars in his career.  I could care less if he is going to get to 3000 hits or not.  Baseball is a business.  Players are paid for their performance and Jeter didn't perform last year compared to what he was paid.  Is Jeter going to give the Yankees a refund on the 19 million he made last year because he had his worst year of his career?  Absolutely not.

Refund??? For scoring the most runs of any leadoff hitter and SS in baseball and being in the top 10 in hits, first among leadoff hitters..your making yourself look bad here.

If Jeter is so confident in his abilities -- Sign an incentive laden contract and earn it on the field, instead of asking for money because of what you have done in the past.  Jeter isn't worth the 15 million the Yankees are offering him.  I hope he tests the market and sees NO ONE is going to offer a light hitting SS more than 8 or 9 million a year, and NO ONE is going to offer him a contract longer than 3 years, as you don't see players at the age of 40 playing SS.

Guess your not mature enough to see the economic side of this...I guess that's why the Yankees have just upped their offer to 50 mil for 3 season....like I said, around 20mil per season is the right number for Jeter and both sides know it...his value to the Yankees is estimated at around 20 mil per year, he will reach 3000 hits in a Yankee uniform (being the only Yankee ever) This will only add to Jeters market value for the franchise and he can possible reach 3500 or 4000 which would further increase his market value for the Yankees.



Since: Nov 28, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2010 1:34 pm
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

There is no loyalty in paid sports, there shouldn't be your being paid. Since players aren't loyal due to free agency why should the yankees be loyal to Jeter??? Because he has been a yankee his whole career, I don't think so. He is way past his prime and doesn't deserve 10 million, let him go and get you another hired gun threw free agency.



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: November 28, 2010 1:06 pm
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

Bklyn77,

Jeter hit .270 with 10 homeruns and 60 something rbi's.  Explain to me again how stat wise he was one of the top SS's last year?  He won a gold glove, but his range is NOWHERE near what it once was and his arm strength isn't the same either.  Peralta hit .250 with 18 homeruns and 81 rbi's last year and signed for 5 million this year.  Guess which two shortstops are said to have the worst range in baseball.  Peralta and Jeter.  Yet Jeter wants 23-25 million a year?

Baseball players don't bounce back and find the fountain of youth when they are past their mid 30's.  It's a fact of life.  Unless you are Barry Bonds and running cycles of steroids, it doesn't happen.  To think Jeter is going to come back next year and his range is going to be improved at SS or his arm strength is going to be better is foolish.  Same as thinking his batting average is going to jump into the .300's again.

As you get older, you bat speed slows down.  Pitches you used to pull are now hit opposite field.  There is a reason he struck out 100+ times last year.  He is getting older.  I see you listed his errors and fielding % -- do you know how many fewer balls he got to at SS than the younger version of him?  Both Andrus and Ramirez had over 200 more chances than Jeter.  Some of that is due to pitching, but alot of it is because they have range at SS and get to balls Jeter used to be able to, but doesn't anymore.

As far as what the Yankees make off a player -- Last I checked, it has nothing to do with what a player gets paid.  A player gets paid for his performance on the field.  Go look at the players getting paid 20+ million a year and compare their stats to Jeter's and you tell me if he deserves that kind of money?!?!  It's a joke and is making Jeter a laughinstock for even asking for that absurd amount after the year he had.

The Yankees owe him nothing -- He has made over 200 million dollars in his career.  I could care less if he is going to get to 3000 hits or not.  Baseball is a business.  Players are paid for their performance and Jeter didn't perform last year compared to what he was paid.  Is Jeter going to give the Yankees a refund on the 19 million he made last year because he had his worst year of his career?  Absolutely not.

If Jeter is so confident in his abilities -- Sign an incentive laden contract and earn it on the field, instead of asking for money because of what you have done in the past.  Jeter isn't worth the 15 million the Yankees are offering him.  I hope he tests the market and sees NO ONE is going to offer a light hitting SS more than 8 or 9 million a year, and NO ONE is going to offer him a contract longer than 3 years, as you don't see players at the age of 40 playing SS.



Since: Nov 23, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2010 12:17 pm
 

Report: Jeter wants six years, $150M

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