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Finding a match for Greinke difficult

Posted on: December 13, 2010 6:13 pm
Edited on: December 13, 2010 10:44 pm
Ian Desmond The Nationals want to deal for a pitcher and are "aggressively pursuing" a trade for Matt Garza or Zack Greinke, a major-league source tells Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post .

The Nationals like both pitchers, but have the problem that they don't exactly have the pieces either the Royals or Rays are looking for in return, especially since the team isn't ready to get rid of shortstop Ian Desmond (pictured) or starter Jordan Zimmermann.

"[Desmond] is a guy they think is going to be their shortstop for the next 10 years. That's a really tough guy for them [to trade]. It almost negates getting that pitcher," a source told Kilgore. "Everyone else [aside from Ryan Zimmerman and Jayson Werth] is fair game. They're not going to move Desmond. They'd move [Danny] Espinosa in a  heartbeat."

The Nats could get rid of Josh Willingham, but he's arbitration-eligible, Roger Bernadina and even relievers Drew Storen or Sean Burnett. The team could also move catcher Wilson Ramos.

"I don't see Washington having enough to do a deal with Kansas City," the source said. "I don't see that they have enough to offer unless they were willing to discuss a Desmond or a Jordan Zimmermann, and I don't see that happening. I can't see anyone else for Kansas City that gets them excited enough to do it."

The best fit for a Greinke deal,'s Jerry Crasnick writes , could be Toronto, which has expressed interest in the right-hander. The Blue Jays have catching prospects Travis D'Arnaud, J.P. Arencibia and Carlos Perez, plus outfielders Anthony Gose and Travis Snider. The Jays have balked at giving the Royals Snider and Kyle Drabek, the pitcher they got for Roy Halladay.

Crasnick writes the Yankees and Rangers probably aren't a match for a Greinke trade.

The Brewers have also inquired, and the Reds were reportedly interested in Cliff Lee at the trade deadline last season. Cincinnati has the prospects, but not the payroll flexibility to be able to afford the $27 million left on Greinke's contract.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Since: Aug 2, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2010 9:16 am

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2010 5:33 am

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

Greinke doesn't want to play for the Yankees because he wants to make millions of $$, he just doesn't want the pressure to have to actually earn the money.

Since: May 4, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2010 12:34 am

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

LOL. Lee signs with the Phillies and Greinke does not wan to be traded to the Yankees. George must be rolling in his grave right now.

Since: Oct 30, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2010 12:25 am

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

Yes, he would be facing the Red Sox and Yanks more, but also the Orioles and Jays.

He can't be facing Jays if he plays for them. You probably meant Rays, the team that underperformed this season but would probably win AL Central, if played there. I agree about a wacky comparison, but Greinke, the head-case that he is, would do horribly in AL East. Someone mentioned Atlanta and I have to agree. NL is the best scenario for Greinke

Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: December 13, 2010 11:26 pm

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

Yes, he would be facing the Red Sox and Yanks more, but also the Orioles and Jays.  The AL East is superior to the AL Central, but please don't compare the 2 worst teams in your division other than yourself (your being the Royals) to the 2 best teams in the other division and think its a fair comparison.
Did you forget he plays for the ROYALS?  The team that hasn't been to the playoffs in 25 years!  The team whose owner is a penny pincher.  THEY SUCK!!  

Since: May 24, 2010
Posted on: December 13, 2010 10:27 pm

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

Jordan Zimmerman seriously?  This guy is only 3 years younger than Zach and a what less that 2 years removed from TJ surgery and this writer is speculating that the Nats would not offer him as the centerpiece (plus a few other prospects thrown in).  To the people on this board, like Greinke or not but seriously if I said I'll trade you Greinke for Jordan Zimmerman you would do that deal every day of the week and twice on Sundays right?  If the Nats are serious about winning and this will get Zach to DC you make the damn trade, Jordan Zimmerman could be a hold up or untouchable, seriously?

On the other hand why would TB or KC want him anyway?

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2010 10:23 pm

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

If Kansas City really wants to deal Greinke, it will not be a problem. They may once again be among the worse 3 teams in baseball, and Greinke pitching there, really does little for the Royals win or lose. Once again, as it seems to be for them, they are rebuilding, so may as well get what they can for him. One team that he would really be a fit for are the Braves. They need a number one starter to solidify their pitching staff, and they have many young players in their farm system that would be of great interest to the Royals. Also, Atlanta should be a good place for Greinke, not as much drama there as some cities, plus he would be even more dominant in the National League. Just food for thought.

Since: Jun 28, 2009
Posted on: December 13, 2010 10:14 pm

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

I'm a Jays fan, but I have some reservations about acquiring Greinke - as much as I'd like to have him, he'll be facing the Yankees and Red Sux umpteen times which will be a considerable difference from facing the Indians and White Sox regularly.

Plus, his numbers, if you take out his Cy Young season, is worse than Shaun Marcum's numbers (37-25, 3.85).  Greinke is 60-67, 3.82 overall, so even with his Cy Young season, their ERAs are virtually similar.  Would you trade Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider straight up for Shaun Marcum?   Didn't think so.

Now, if the Jays could get Greinke for a fair bit less than Drabek/Snider, I'd go for it.

Since: Apr 9, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2010 10:13 pm

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

This writer can't even spell. I hope the Blue Jays don't make this deal for Greinke. He is being overvalued. The Marcum for Lawrie deal may have been to set something up, but the Blue Jays' manager was pretty high on Lawrie anyways, so who knows...

Since: Jun 28, 2009
Posted on: December 13, 2010 10:06 pm

Finding a match for Greinke difficult

And it'd be nice if he could spell "Toronoto" correctly as well.

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