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Winners and losers in Lee aftermath

Posted on: December 14, 2010 9:17 am
Edited on: December 14, 2010 10:50 am
Cliff Lee What in the world of Mike Cuellar is going on?

By adding Cliff Lee to the already-potent Roy Halladay-Roy Oswalt-Cole Hamels top of the rotation, the Phillies potentially have the best top of the rotation since the Orioles had four 20-game winners in 1971 with Cuellar, Pat Dobson, Jim Palmer and Dave McNally.

It's certainly the best rotation since the mid-90s Braves that featured Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz, followed by someone like Steve Avery or Denny Neagle.

The bad news for the Phillies is that it wasn't starting pitching that let them down in October. It was not scoring enough runs against quality starting pitching from the Giants.

As for the offense, how has that changed? Jayson Werth, the team's best offensive player last season, is gone. Raul Ibanez and Placido Polanco are a year older -- and Jimmy Rollins seems to age two years for every year nowadays. He's not been the same player the last two years that he was before. There are also emerging questions about Chase Utley. And then there's Ryan Howard, who is still imposing in the lineup, but suddenly looks less protect and reminds people that he's 31 with fewer home runs than the year before in each of the last two seasons.

Still, ask most teams and they'd take their chances with Howard, Utley, Polanco and even roll the dice on whether Rollins will be happy, as long as they're behind a starting rotation for the ages, like the Phillies have accumulated.

The Phillies are the clear winner in this whole deal. Because even if there are chinks in the armor, it's still one heck of a suit of armor -- especially the sleeves.

For the Yankees, Andy Pettitte becomes that much more important to the Yankees. Pettitte has reportedly been mulling retirement, but is crucial to the team's rotation going forward. And if you think the Yankees feel bad about these developments, let's think about how the Mets feel having to be in the same division as Lee, Halladay, Oswalt and Hamels.

The Rangers, on other hand, were right all along. They could offer Lee comfort the Yankees couldn't match, and something he obviously valued in the end. However, the Phillies offered not only the pillow top mattress, but one he'd slept like a baby in before.

Texas also has a World Series-type team, but one without an ace. The Rangers weren't serious contenders until they pulled Lee from the Mariners last season, and now they're faced with the same problem months later.

The rivalry between New York and Boston means any time the Yankees lose, the Red Sox win and vice versa. The Red Sox, who have added Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez are better (no matter what Evan says ), and the Yankees aren't as good as expected -- so the Sox win.

The biggest winner in all this -- besides the Phillies and Lee -- could be the Royals. Kansas City is dangling a bona fide No. 1 starter in Zack Greinke. And don't think Andrew Friedman in Tampa isn't receiving calls on Matt Garza about right now. The prices on those two starters haven't gone down in the last 12 hours, that's for sure. If you're going to get one of those, you'll have to pay.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Fire Childress
Since: Nov 15, 2010
Posted on: December 14, 2010 11:32 am
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Since: Dec 26, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2010 11:31 am

Winners and losers in Lee aftermath

Phils offense will be fine......D. Brown and Francisco would be starters...and maybe stars on many teams!  If Utley & Rollins stay healthy, they easily win NL East......they can play small-ball if they have to.......that pitching staff will allow them many options.  They might not even need 1-2 of their middle-man with all of those horses eating up innings.......if I am Thome, I beg to go back to Philly and join that team and run at multiple championships!

The real winner is Greinke / Royals.  They want what Toronto has w/ Arenchibia, Drabek, Lawrie, & Snider.......and of those two and two prospects easily close this deal.  Rangers might panic and offer up something crazy....but they don't have right match and gave away quite a bit to get C. Lee.  They should go get Garza and Blanton and simply outscore everyone in AL West.....but C.Lee is big-game pitcher and there are few who can silent the Yankees line-up like he did.......

All roads go through Boston & they aren't heavy favorites for next several years will be shocking.  

Exciting, but sad......there are SO many baseball teams that are just feeder programs for the 4-6 large market teams.  

But, the Pirates made $30m last I guess losing ain't so bad. But many fans are going to stop paying good money to see JV products being put on field......just ask the NBA & NHL how much fun it is to over-pay for talent and not have revenues from ticket sales to cover the tab.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2010 11:27 am

Winners and losers in Lee aftermath

Obvious big winner: Angels.  Texas now in striking range, despite LAA's terrible off-season so far.

Biggest losers: Yanks--no way that creaking team w/average pitching can extricate itself from its poor position now.

Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2010 10:55 am

Winners and losers in Lee aftermath

Comments on declining offense in Philadelphia from Howard, Utley, Rollins and Polanco are about as overrated as saying Cliff Lee wants all the money and years he can get.  They have played more games then just about any team in baseball the last few years and all that and the injury bug got to them.  The Phillies will still have a dynamic offense and now have a MORE amazing rotation.  If they were contenders before today, now they have to be favorites.

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