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Greinke asks to be traded

Posted on: December 17, 2010 8:34 pm
 
Zack Greinke
Well, we've moved from "the Royals might consider trading Zack Greinke for the right price" to "Zack Greinke wants out."

Greinke fired his agent Friday, apparently part of an effort to force a trade. FOXSports.com is hearing from multiple major-league sources that the Cy Young winner has asked to be traded.

Greinke, 27, is unhappy with being on a losing team, something he was very open about in a September interview. "I just want to be on a team that's working towards winning right now. I don't want to just go through years where you're rebuilding. It's not something that gets me excited is all."

After winning the Cy Young in 2009 with a MLB-best 2.16 ERA, Greinke went 10-14 with a 4.17 ERA last season. Baseball people think Greinke wasn't giving his best effort, and he admitted he wasn't motivated, things that might be corrected with a change of scenery.

Greinke has a no-trade provision with 15 teams listed, including the Yankees, Nationals, Blue Jays, Brewers and Red Sox. Of course, that doesn't mean he can't be traded to any of those 15 teams, just that he'd have to give permission. Now that he's trying to get out, that's probably more likely than it was when he signed the contract. He has two more years on his deal at $13.5 million per season.

The Royals had reportedly been asking for the moon for Greinke, but the pitcher's new stance might pressure them to be more flexible. And Greinke's new agent, Casey Close, was the force behind getting Roy Halladay out of Toronto last winter.

If I'm a GM, I'd be a little wary of banking on a guy for whom a $38 million contract and a sense of professionalism didn't provide sufficient motivation to work hard at his job. But you can bet the lure of adding a No. 1 pitcher is going to be enough to get a lot of teams past those misgivings.

-- David Andriesen

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Comments

Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: December 18, 2010 8:38 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

Maybe the Phillies or Red Sox will trade for him....It's funny how the Yankees get BLASTED by every other fan when they try to "buy" championships but the Phillies and Red Sox do the same damn thing and nobody says a word. They are applauded for overspending. Very interesting. Bottom line is there is no cap. No team should be KILLED for trying to win and that includes the Yankees. But the Yankee haters will never go away it seems.



Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: December 18, 2010 7:15 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

Genius.....salary caps?  Let's see...sports that have salary caps...football, basketball. What do you see? I'll tell you....take basketball, for instance.  Over the past twenty years, you've had the Lakers, Bulls, and Spurs win about 90% of the championships....lotta good the salary cap is doing in THAT sport!  Oh...and football....let's see...the last twenty or so years....Patriots, 49ers, Cowboys....ummm yeah...lots of good the caps done there too.  Outside of the Yankees having won four championships in the late 90's, baseball's had ZERO dynasty's over the last 20 years!!  And if money were a factor in winning championships, then the Yanks, Boston, Dodgers, and Cubs (when's the last time they won? 100 years ago) would be annual World Series champs, which they're not. I love you people who cry about "baseball needs a cap", when in reality, it doesn't make a difference. Case in point, 2001 Diamondbacks, 2002 Marlins, 2010 Giants....none of whom were near the top in payroll!  Get your facts straight!!



Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:54 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

Let's be realistic, if K.C. was building a contender would Zack want out, like he stated... "I just want to be on a team that's working towards winning right now. I don't want to just go through years where you're rebuilding. It's not something that gets me excited is all."

KC hasn't had a contender in how long, lets stop and think about that..hmmmmmmmm, since.... wow that long. 

Can you blame the guy, all he WANTS IS TO BE ON A WINNING TEAM.  For some of you chastising the guy, losing is not someone likes to be part of year after year.  Let's look at Halliday & Lee they both have become part of winning Franchises and its help them get motivated, its interesting on how winning can help a player...hmmm.

I don't think that the fans will come out every year with the expectation of losing year after year. 
If he does get traded than see how he performs?  It would be interesting to see him traded to a Franchise that contends each year and see how much he gets motivated.  Not all the Big Cities win it every year, look at this past World Series, who would have thought that San Francisco & Texas would have met each other, while all the prognosticators had the Phillie's & Yankee's tickets punch and see what happened there. 

As the saying goes, they still have to play the game on the field.

Let Zack go play for a contender and see what he can really do if 2009 was any indicator, just maybe he might winning 1 or 2 more Cy Young awards.



Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:11 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

small market teams would love this but them and the players know no matter how hard they try they cant compete with the yanks, sox, etc...so that seems pretty unfair. maybe your next point will make some sense.



Since: Sep 9, 2008
Posted on: December 18, 2010 5:22 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

It would not surprise me to see the Angels or the Rangers go after this guy. They both took a beatdown in free agency and need to save face. They got the money and you can always use a good pitcher....



Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2010 5:21 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

Tell me you arent surprised that an American businessman only does whats best for his wallet and not his customers. Welcome to America sweetheart. Been this way and it wont change at this rate. Sadly



Since: Apr 22, 2008
Posted on: December 18, 2010 3:26 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

While that sounds good, I dont think it will ever happen. I think baseball is the WORST when it comes to contracts, but you have to look at it from a business standpoint. MLB has that many games, it brings in that much money, and it can afford to throw around those  kinds of dollars. Unfortunaley, the smaller market teams who don't have anything to fall back on, can't take those risks or even afford to pay those kinds of contracts. And when it comes down to it, an incentive laden contract for ALL players, will NEVER happen. Where does that leave the best players in baseball? They are all treated the same? How do you acquire new , good players? Theres no reason for free agency if no one makes extra dollars to be bid on. And then all the great players would all go to one team so they can win and earn the extra cash. And Im sure the big market teams, the Yankees, Red Sox, etc, who now have all that extra cash they are saving on contracts, will offer other means to get their players. TV deals, endorsments, behind the scene extras. It will never change. The only way to meet between what your saying and the reality is to have a CAP in baseball. But contracts are so out of whack now, I doubt that will ever even happen. But that is the answer. It doesn't have to be a small number, since all winning teams bring in a good amount of money. Say 90-100 mill cap. Then the Yankees of the world can't buy their teams and everyone would be on a level playing field. But the bottom line is to win. Just look at what happened here in Philly. The Phils always had a decent fan base as far as attendance, but losing teams don't draw support. Once they got the new stadium, it drew more people. And believe it or not, the Phils turned things around because of their farm system. They brought in players like Myers, Hamels, Howard, Utley, Rollins, etc, and turned the team into a division contender. Their success brought in more people, which brought in more dollars, which enabled them to bring in more and better players, to allow them to win a World Series. Now they have sold out a ton of games in a row, and are now in the upper echelon of teams. I only bring this example up to state that teams need to be able to creat a good farm system and have good players come through, thats the only way to turn things around for a franchise. But baseball, unlike any other sport, is so watered down with F/A and the amount of money they throw around, its hard for smaller market teams to compete. Philly always had a great fan base , and wouldn't be considered small market. But for the Royals anyway, the move is they have to move Grienke and replenish the system, and unfortunately for them, they won't be relevant until they can create a good group of young players that are good together. Almost a perfect storm. Until they are all good, and they all generate money, nothing will change. If they don't bring in the cash they won't be able to re-sign those young studs, and they will move on to NYY/BOS etc. See the Rays. So if MLB wants to fix the problem, they have to go to a salary cap, but that will NEVER happen. As long as all the execs and MLB people are making money, nothing else matters...



Since: Dec 15, 2010
Posted on: December 18, 2010 3:20 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

I dont go anywhere.   I'll be right here.  I always say when I'm wrong.  But what is going to be considered Great, Average, or Bad Season....Above .500 wins, even .500 wins and below .500 wins?

You tell me....you're the guy predicting a bad season.  Just so you know, there ARE other indicators as to whether a pitcher had a good season other than wins.  You need to consider ERA, WHIP, K's, K/BB ratio, etc.  Remember, Felix Hernandez won a Cy Young with a .500 record, so just make sure you consider ALL of the evidence, not just the win/loss record to spin you argument.





Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2010 2:39 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

I dont go anywhere.   I'll be right here.  I always say when I'm wrong.  But what is going to be considered Great, Average, or Bad Season....Above .500 wins, even .500 wins and below .500 wins?



Since: Dec 15, 2010
Posted on: December 18, 2010 2:21 pm
 

Greinke asks to be traded

PhilliesR2C2, I'm going to add you to my favorite members list.  When Oswalt has a bad year this coming year, I will send you a message that says I TOLD YOU SO!   Oh and are you Roy Oswalt's agent? or are you Roy Oswalt himself because you make it sound like he (or you) are in a contract year....Just wondering...


MU, I'm simply stating facts while you're the guy making assinine statements based on absolutely nothing.  Did you even watch Oswalt pitch last year?  His fastball was live and he was back to being a dominant pitcher after his ONE bad season due to battling injuries.  Before you start making outlandish predictions, try looking at stats so you can make intelligent posts. 

Also, are you going to go into hiding when he has a good year or will you be there to admit you're wrong?  I'll bet you go into hiding like Braves fans last year after they guaranteed an NL East crown in July only to see the Phillies come back and win the division.


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