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Brewers land Greinke

Posted on: December 19, 2010 12:09 am
Edited on: April 18, 2011 11:56 am
Zack Greinke Well, we call oursleves Facts & Rumors on this blog, and file this under the latter.

This rumor comes from a fan blog on the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel site, and maybe there's something to it. I don't know, but even the author doesn't seem to stand by his own report with a huge disclaimer saying this is just a rumor, but a rumor he feels comfortable enough to publish -- even though I'm not so sure the editors at the Journal Sentinel would feel the same way.

With all that said, the Bernies Crew blog claims Zack Greinke's headed to Milwaukee. The disgruntled 2009 American League Cy Young winner is apparently tired of losing and Milwaukee is the place to cure that? Anyway, the deal, as reported, is Greinke and shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt along with $2 million to Milwaukee in exchange for shortstop Alcides Escobar, center fielder Lorenzo Cain and right-hander Jeremy Jeffress.

The Royals system is loaded, but does lack an impact shortstop and center fielder, so it would make sense in that it would fill needs, but doesn't seem to be on par with the impact players that the team has said it would need in order to make a deal.

Baseball Prospectus' Kevin Goldstein tweets he's talked to the agent of both Jeffress and Cain, and neither of his clients have been contacted by either team. Jeffress has tested positive for marijuana twice and has served a 100-game suspension. With one more positive test, he'd face a lifetime suspension. He made his big-league debut this year, but still would be a risky venture for the Royals.

With Greinke and Shaun Marcum, the Brewers would be vastly improved over last season (even with the addition of Betancourt) and in the National League Central, just about any team has a chance at making a run to a division title.

In the end, though, I'm not sure this one passes the sniff test. I could be really wrong, but I'm not sure the Royals are this desperate yet.

UPDATE: is reporting this as well , adding that the Royal would also receive right-hander Jake Odorizzi, a first-rounder in the 2008 draft. Odorizzi was 7-3 with a 3.43 ERA at Class A Wisconsin of the Midwest League last season.  He struck out 135 in 120 2/3 innings. Odorizzi is not an insignificant add -- it makes the package look better and better. Although, the author of that report, Andrew Wagner, does not name Betancourt as going to Milwaukee, just a "major league" player. That would be debatable with Betancourt, but that he has drawn a big-league check, so he technically counts.

UPDATE: Journal Sentinel Brewers beat writer Tom Haudricourt checks in on Twitter :

UPDATE: Haudricourt tweets again, but has no confirmation of the deal:

UPDATE: Several outlets confirm the deal, including the Journal Sentinel 's Tom Haudricourt .

Give credit to Jim Breen over at Bernies Crew for the stories and my appoligies. You win the day and respect, while many ofthe rest of us eat crow. Good work, Jim, and my apologies.

This makes the National League Central a three-team race between the Brewers, Reds and Cardinals this season. The Brewers have an imposing top of the rotation with Greinke, Shaun Marcum and Yovani Gallardo.

That said, the team has given up its shortstop, center fielder and second baseman of the future, plus two of its best arms. Baseball America's upcoming Prospect Handbook had Odorizzi as the organization's top prospect and Jeffress third. It also means the Brewers are going for a title this season, and a trade of Prince Fielder is unlikely before the season.

Give Milwaukee credit, they're going for it -- much like they did when they acquired CC Sabathia in 2008. It will be a more interesting race in the National League Central, that's for sure.

UPDATE: Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated tweets Jeffress isn't part of the deal, instead, a player to be named is headed to Kansas City. Heyman also notes the Royals had a deal with the Nationals, but Greinke would not approve that deal.

UPDATE: senior writer Danny Knobler says the deal is all but done, with the two teams haggling over the last player, which is likely Jeffress.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:48 am

Brewers land Greinke

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Since: Dec 20, 2010
Posted on: December 20, 2010 11:02 pm

Brewers land Greinke

This is a good trade for the Brewers and the Royals. The Brewers get a stud starter not to mention earlier this month they got Shaun Marcum. If you looked at the Royals farm system you would faint there is so much prospects.

Since: Oct 11, 2010
Posted on: December 19, 2010 2:56 pm
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Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2010 11:19 am

Brewers land Greinke

As far as sticking with the Royals for a couple more seasons, that shouldn't be a problem since i've stuck with them for 15+ years in similiar to worst situations. I went to 5-10 games last year and probably will next year as well, any Royals fans still left aren't fair weather fans and will still be there in 2 years. I suppose you thought Baird could have offered Beltan 6 years 120 million like the Mets, bringing in Teahen and Buck was the most he could get at the time. Baird and his scouts were a terrible judge of drafting talent, Moore and his scouts have proved other wise in Atlanta for years. Almost every prospect rankings have the Royals farm system ranked first right now, which is a small markets only chance to put together a winner when the time is right.
Greinke had 10 wins just about anyone we throw out there can get 5 or 6 wins, we're really going to miss those 4 wins for 20 million aren't we. Peace!!

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2010 11:09 am

Brewers land Greinke

You might be the only 'happy' Royals fan the USA.

First off those words haven't gone together in a longtime. I might be the only realistic royals fan on this board, just like when i thought trading Tony G and J Allen would help the chiefs in a few years in terms of getting younger and saving millions of dollars on their contracts just to lose in near future, now those millions aren't tied up on two players one of which is old and overpaid. Does anyone think keeping Zack 2 more years and getting nothing in return would be smart.

 I feel this trade has similiar purposes and will benefit the club in the long run assuming they don't all develop next year some how. Of course i liked Greinke, Beltran, Dye, Damon, Ibanez, etc... But guess what we can spend 160 million a year on 6 or 7 players.  Greinke was a great pick at #6 in the draft back in 2000, he's had 60 wins a sub 4 ERA and of course the cy young year but if we haven't won in 8  years and he wants out do you think we shouldn't dump his salary and get prospects before he's a FA after two more losing seasons???  As far as Fielder and Braun being developed in Milwaukee, well guess what the Royals was the manager there when they made the turn to good players.

Enough Royals talk, Chiefs have a huge game to move to 9-5 and stay in 1st place over the almighty chargers.

Since: May 11, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2010 10:56 am

Brewers land Greinke

Philly, San Fran, and now you can put Milwaukee into the conversation (Gallardo, Grienke, Marcum, with Braun, Prince, Hart, and McGehee)...since when is the National League becoming the dominant force in baseball?

Since: Dec 26, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2010 10:54 am

Brewers land Greinke

You might be the only 'happy' Royals fan the USA.

Seriously, there is no way anyone can feel good about this trade until in 3-4 years when/if these players pan out!  Ranger are sure happy w/ bounty they got for Tex....but I just don't see it w/ this group. 

Moore has said REPEATLY he was in driver's seat and he didn't have to trade Zack until he got some impact prospects......yes, Royals need a SS and OF....they need quite a bit and this 'fits' nicely......

I bet you thought Baird was a good GM too.....remember when he traded a pretty good player named Beltran trying to fill positions.....I think the 'blue chip' player in that deal was M., he lit up score board and is a #8 or #9 hitter for White Sox.

Dayton Moore is a crappy GM and other GM's give him compliments cause they know they can take away his best players for prospects......the Brewers have Gomez in CF and if Escobar developed at all in 2010, he wouldn't have been traded. Jeffress has a 101 mph fast ball and drug problem.....Cain will fit nicely into Royals team that will be fast, young, and maybe hit 125 homers as team.....we will catch the ball......but won't hit for a lick and now we have ZERO pitching......

Only silver lining is Zack kinda forced Dayton hand and we got rid of Yancy!  When 4-5 other bad contracts come off books (see my previous post).....maybe Dayton can stock pile all of this money he's making Glass and we can then go re-acquire 3-4 top tier stars to play with this highly touted group of prospects.....

Hope you stick w/ them Royals for 2-3 more years to get back to maybe .500......I didn't attend a single game last year and I cannot
understand how fans will spend their hard working dollars to watch a JV product.....

Dayton Moore can't be happy about Chiefs doing well....cause Royals will just be an after-thought to KC fans.  They will have lowest attendance and worst record in baseball......for next 1-3 years.....but, hey, we got some prospects!

If Moore / Baird did their job, we would have never had to trade a Cy Young talent like Zack....cause you know, they come around so often in the Royals pitching history.......please do your reserach and tell me of 'any' pitching prospect we've delevloped in the last 15 years.......then, try to get back on your Dayton Moore bandwagon!

Since: Aug 28, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2010 10:51 am

Brewers land Greinke

As a Brewers fan, I can't be more shocked or pleased.  It looks like Doug Melvin finally gets it.  The Crew has been feast or famine on offense for years now, and the pitching was giving you no chance to win on the famine nights.  Now there are going to be quite a few nights that you can win with three runs on the board.  Melvin must have had an epiphany while watching the Series this year; great pitching trumps all.  I would still rather see Fielder traded than not, but either way, it's going to be a fun summer in Milwaukee.  My next destination is to check out ticket packages.  It is a Merry Christmas indeed in Beertown.

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2010 10:49 am

Brewers land Greinke

Glad we got proper office terms straightened out on these sports post,lol.

Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2010 10:44 am

Brewers land Greinke

Don't you mean, "refer to the former."? Dumbass

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