ok so there are 30 teams w 5 man rotations which comes out to 150 pitchers. There were def. over 150 pitchers who started games so lets be conservative and add an extra 20, thats 170 pitchers.  So 37 outta 170, and whatever the other 2 were doesn't sound to bad to me w/ all the guys who had down years.  Thanks for those stats.
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You wish it were that easy..........Try ALL NL pitchers who pitched at least 30 innings..........

Jim Thome did what most players do with their stats.  He broke into the league established himself, his stats went up in the prime of his career and then started to decline with age.  He was never linked to steroids like the players who I named, those players (besides clemens) actually admitted to it or failed tests, big difference.

Phillies aren't buying titles because Ruiz, Howard, Utley, JRoll, Hamels, Madson, etc are all homegrown going through the minor leagues

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The Yankees have been knocked by many baseball fans and the media about not having homegrown players. Most people think that they just buy all of their players, but that’s far from the truth. In fact, they have the highest percentage (56%) of homegrown players on their 25-man roster in the American League. In all of baseball, the only team that has a higher percentage of homegrown players is the Colorado Rockies, who stand at 64%. Who would have guessed that they hae that many homegrown players.

ok so there are 30 teams w 5 man rotations which comes out to 150 pitchers. There were def. over 150 pitchers who started games so lets be conservative and add an extra 20, thats 170 pitchers.  So 37 outta 170, and whatever the other 2 were doesn't sound to bad to me w/ all the guys who had down years.  Thanks for those stats.

BTW When was Thome link to steroids?  and JC  took a supplement that you could buy in GNC.  Yes it was on the banned list but it was not considered a steroid.  I was talking about steroids and HGH.  Items that are illegal to have by law in the united states, yes Nails was linked, One Phillie in the early 90's compared to your starting 3B, A pitcher you guys are begging to come back, A pitcher who won a couple of WS for them, Your 4th or 5th starter this year and another slugger who won and played in WS for them.  
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Thome possesses a set of incredibly high power numbers at a time when offense was king in baseball. Why was offense king? Something about pills and needles...Open your eyes, your Phillies are not immune........

Thome had the unfortunate timing of putting up big numbers when everyone else did. In the grand scheme of things, this might work against Thome as he tries to build his Hall of Fame resume, because he was never a dominant player in the game—just a power hitter who produced when everyone else did.

So what makes a case for Thome's steroid use? Look at the numbers. Take a trip back to the 1980s and look at the power numbers that led all of baseball. What you find is exponentially less 30, 40, and 50 home run hitters than there are today (not to mention compared to the heyday of the steroid era).

Thome has the potential to put up these types of numbers, as made clear by his early career numbers. I get suspicious, however, when a 35-40 home run hitter turns into a 45-50 home run hitter in the late 1990s, a time when everyone seems to be hitting more.

In his first seven seasons with Cleveland, Jim Thome averaged 32 home runs a year. Respectable numbers at the dish, and certainly enough to make him a prominent hitter in the major leagues. In the 2001 season, however, Thome's production increased greatly (seemed to be a very popular time for hitters to start producing).

Despite averaging 32 home runs a year for his first six season, Thome, at the age of 31, clubbed 190 home runs over the next four seasons.

What makes the case more compelling is Thome's last two years of production following the previously mentioned offensive outbreak. When steroids hit the front page, several baseball players immediately cycled off in fear of testing positive.

Thome might not have been one of these players, but the statistics suggest it's possible. Over the last two years, Thome has hit no more than 35 home runs and driven in no more than 100 runs, culminating in a paltry .245 batting average last season.

Could he have simply improved his production via exercise, studying tape, weightlifting, etc.? Yes. But this was an awfully convenient time to increase production, as performance-enhancing drugs ran rampant throughout baseball.

Phillies have no run support? Maybe because JRoll missed half the season (88 games). Utley missed 2.5 months. Howard missed 5 weeks. Polanco played with a broken elbow since April and was on the DL 3 times. And guess what the Phillies scored the 2nd most runs in the NL despite all that, only 18 runs behind the Reds. And the Reds had barely any injuries last year.  Everyone loves Jayson Werth, but he only batted .170 all season with RISP and I watched every single game. If you take away his hot streak in April and May he was okay at best. He is overrated and is a journey man. 2 years ago was the first time he played over 130 games and he is 31 years old. When all the eyes are on him and not Howard and Utley he will just be a mediocre hitter on a bad team.

Phillies aren't buying titles because Ruiz, Howard, Utley, JRoll, Hamels, Madson, etc are all homegrown going through the minor leagues. We got Doc and Lee for cheaper then what the market was wanting to pay hahahahaha. So how is that buying titles??? Especially Doc taking 4 years $80 million, he could have got a ton of more money. Plus we traded a ton of our minors to get Doc and Oswalt. So basically Lee and Ibanez are the only two we signed through free agency.

None of us are saying the NL East is better then the AL East. If its easier for us then fine hahahaha. Good luck.

Here are your stats..........Rankings for your 2010 Phillies starters 1-3 run support with Rankings:

Roy Halladay is ranked 40th in run support
Roy Oswalt is ranked is 43rd in run support
Cole Hamels is 37th in run support

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I was saying that the Phillies still scored runs last year to the tune of 2nd most in the NL.  You were saying they will have no run support and you still haven't supported your reason as to why they wouldn't.  Once again you have failed to prove a point, so easy to prove someone wrong when they have nothing to back up their statements.

Joba looking for a job-about now.  Hope they don't try him as a starter again.  Great signing, though: not enough to make up for lousy starting rotation, but enough to put them into competitive position for the wild card.

BTW When was Thome link to steroids?  and JC  took a supplement that you could buy in GNC.  Yes it was on the banned list but it was not considered a steroid.  I was talking about steroids and HGH.  Items that are illegal to have by law in the united states, yes Nails was linked, One Phillie in the early 90's compared to your starting 3B, A pitcher you guys are begging to come back, A pitcher who won a couple of WS for them, Your 4th or 5th starter this year and another slugger who won and played in WS for them.