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Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

Posted on: January 25, 2011 10:38 am
Edited on: January 25, 2011 1:52 pm
 
Derek Jeter
Yankees general manager Brian Cashman attended a breakfast Tuesday morning sponsored by a New York radio station, and espnW contributor Amanda Rykoff relayed some of his comments via Twitter.

* Cashman would be "surprised" if Derek Jeter plays shortstop for the four-year duration of his contract, predicting Jeter will move to the outfield. But ... but ... Jeter is the best shortstop in the league! Gold Glove voters said so!

* Asked who was the better team right now, the Yankees or Red Sox, he answered, "Red Sox. But we have a better bullpen." OK, points for candor there, as that probably won't play well in the Bronx.

* No chance of Joba Chamberlain returning to the rotation, because he "hasn't been the same" since the 2008 shoulder injury he suffered in Texas.

* A.J. Burnett "knows he has a problem and he's doing all he can to fix it."

* "We're one starter away from being a World Series contender."

UPDATE: After the Jeter thing predictably caught fire online, Cashman backtracked a bit in a conversation  with the Star-Ledger, saying it was just a hypothetical and not anything that has been discussed as being imminent.

"We'll deal with that if he loses something and forces us to deal with that. That's not where we're at," he said, adding that the casual exchange at a fan breakfast was a "baseball conversation, not a declaration, not an announcement, nothing of that nature."

-- David Andriesen

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Since: Dec 19, 2010
Posted on: January 25, 2011 4:46 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

BASTARDO!!!!!!!!!!!



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: January 25, 2011 4:38 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

Ganggreen....may I add to your comment, as it is incomplete:

I will concede the following that you listed:
Ibanez-FA
Victorino trade
Francisco-trade
Werth (gone)-trade
Mayberry-trade
Halladay-trade
Oswalt-trade
Blanton-trade
Hamels-
Farm
Moyer-FA
Romero-FA
Lee-FA
Contreras-FA
Utley-
Farm
Howard-
Farm
Rollins-
Farm

What about the following who were instrumental in the latest success:
Ruiz: FARM (seriously, you list Mayberry, who has been in our farm system for the last 2 seasons, but not the guy starting behind the plate for the last 4?)
Madson: FARM (seriously, the 5th guy in our pen, but you forget the #2 guy, the guy that has been here the longest?)
Kendrick: FARM (okay, he isn't Lee, but he has been here a lot longer than Lee or Halladay or Oswalt, but he has started 83 games for us the past 4 years, winning 35, compared to the 57 starts and 35 wins...seriously, out of our entire projected staff, only Hamels has started more for us).
Brown: FARM - highest rated prospect in baseball, and one of the projected starters in the OF to replace Werth (who you listed despite the fact that he is gone).
Bastardo - FARM

So that is 2 out of 5 starting pitchers from the Farm (most people are assuming Blanton is gone);
Of the 8 everyday starters, 4 are from the Farm (5 of 9 if you consider the platoon of Francisco / Brown)
In the pen, of the top 5 guys (Lidge, Madson, Romero, Contreras, Bastardo), 2 of 5 are from the Farm

So we are looking at 8 of 19 are from the Farm...that is probably pretty much in line with the rest of the MLB.





Since: Dec 19, 2010
Posted on: January 25, 2011 4:08 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

A Rod as the DH in 2012 makes a lot of sense (readers please note that a lot is two words). I'm not sure the Red Sox are really that much above the Yankees right now (they are above them though). 1b is a wash. 2b is an edge for the  yankees. SS is a wash. 3B probably a wash (A Rod VS Youk). OF is pretty even, I would give the sox an edge in left field and at DH. and that's about it. Bullpen is pretty even. Right now the main advantage the sox have is in starting pitching. Lester and Bucholz are better than a 1 - 2 punch of CC and Hughes, but not that much better. Then you take the sox next three pitchers; Lackey, Dice K and Beckett. Yes, they are better than Burnett and Mitre or Nova, but they aren't world beaters. They aren't shut down pitchers. The Yankees  will trade for a decent starter to level the playing field. Toronto isn't better than they were last year. Lots of pitching, little hitting. Orioles, where is the pitching? Rays have regressed as well. That being said, this is what I see happening in the east this summer: Red Sox, Yankees, Rays, Orioles, Jays.



Since: Feb 29, 2008
Posted on: January 25, 2011 4:07 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

Wow 27 that's all you need to know..............you a bit jealous???????????????
Dude you have some serious issues I get it from the team with the most losses in MLB history and who are you to talk about a farm system your team does the same thing EVERY team does to get better they trade and they sign FA's and just for your info umm Petitte,Jeter,Rivera,Gardner,Cano,Hughes nevermind i could go on are ALL farm system players so please learn something about the game before you speak becasue you have 1 pitcher that came from your farm jackass you are the last team that should critical of signing FA's and trades.

Ibanez-FA
Victorino trade
Francisco-trade
Werth (gone)-trade
Mayberry-trade
Halladay-trade
Oswalt-trade
Blanton-trade
Hamels-Farm
Moyer-FA
Romero-FA
Lee-FA
Contreras-FA
Utley-Farm
Howard-Farm
Rollins-Farm

REALLY???????????????


How you can even utter talk poorly about the greatest closer in history of baseball is just incomprehensible and your talk of players not gwanting to go there huh thats weird since only 1 even had a chance to go there and he chose the place that was where his sick son could get the best care yeah that's really awesome..........You're a complete idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Why don't you take a look at baseball americas farm system reports and see how the Yankee farm system ranks dumbass
You shouldn't be allowed to breath our air you're a pathetic excuse for a baseball fan



Since: Feb 6, 2007
Posted on: January 25, 2011 3:50 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

From LoHud... for anybody who wants to know how this topic came up and shed some more truth on what was actually said:

For better and worse, Brian Cashman is generally a candid speaker when he’s in a relaxed environment. He puts up his shields when he has to, but when there’s an easy back and forth, he’s more willing than most general managers to go along with it and speak his mind.

That’s what he did today, and it became a story that Cashman never expected until his phone started ringing off the hook with reporters asking about Derek Jeter moving to the outfield. Step-by-step, here’s how Cashman described this morning’s Jeter discussion at a WFAN breakfast/Q&A.

1. A fan asked whether Jeter would remain at shortstop. Cashman said right now there are no plans to move him away from the position.

2. Mike Francesa, serving a kind of host for the event, brought up his idea that Jeter could eventually move to third base and Alex Rodriguez could move to designated hitter.

3. Cashman, rolling with Francesa’s hypothetical, said that he prefers more power in the corners and said that — given Jeter’s athleticism and offensive style — a move to the outfield would be more likely.

That was the back-and-forth. Cashman was willing to go along with the hypothetical situation of Jeter leaving the shortstop position, and guessed that a move to the outfield would be more likely than a move to third base. It’s interesting and it’s newsworthy, but there’s no indication that the Yankees are planning or preparing for such a change.

“It wasn’t a declaration of any kind,” Cashman said.


 





Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: January 25, 2011 3:47 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

The points:

1) Jeter is an ok shortstop right now.  They can hide him in the outfield, but is his bat that good as a corner outfield?  No.

2) Red Soxs have a better everything over the Yankees right now.  Hitting, power, speed go to the Soxs.  Starting, bullpen to Soxs.  Rivera is Yankees.

3) Jobe is done as a Yankees.  The presure of playing there has killed the kid and they shoudl trade him if they can.

4) Which problem is the problem for Burnett?  I see everything as a problem.  He is not consistant, walks too many, allows too many hits, cracks under pressure.  You name it, the problem is his.

5) One starter away.  Pitcher or hitter?  They have a serious age problem and even with some little youth, C, 1b, ss, 3b, of, p are old.  One starter away.  They should make the playoffs since the AL is weak and they have spent far more money that anyone else.  However, what round did they lose last year?  Unless they lost the world series, they are more than one starter away.



Since: Jan 25, 2011
Posted on: January 25, 2011 3:42 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

Jeter is one of the most over-hyped players in baseball history.   Extremely consistent and a good team leader, but the gold glove was a gift.  He got his new contract based fan adoration, not expected results.  The outfield reference by Cashman is the first admission that re-signing him is probably a mistake and a waste of $$.



Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: January 25, 2011 3:35 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

all you yanks need to read what i am about to write...

ITS OVER!!!!!!! THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN U DONT DRAFT UR TEAM U BUY IT!! THE YANKS ARE OLD AND OVERPAID. HALF THE TEAM HAS BEEN OVER 30 FOR 5 YEARS NOW.. U HAVE A STERIOD FIEND IN AROD AND I KNOW HIS BODY IS STARTING TO BREAK DOWN THAT HAPPENS AFTER ABOUT 2 YEARS OF UR BODY NOT GETTING THE JUICE. ur closer is older then the dirt on the mound. granderson is not what they wanted him to be either is jeter. jeter should have retired when george died.. i mean honestly it shouldnt be the yankees anymore it should be the oldies.. they have no youth and the youth they have is used and abused.. i saw someone on here post something about big roy going to the phils and not the yanks because they didnt give up chaimberland.. they took farm picks rather then a starter in the mlb u fuckin retard what are u talking??? he sux no one wants him and all that money he is owed same thing with burnett and the same thing with cc in 3 years.. lee didnt want to go there oswalt didnt want to go there doc didnt want to go there.. why is that? i see them trading for strasburg or the kid from the reds and them breaking down the yanks even worse.. they need alot of help everywhere. they have 2 positions locked down right now one is 1st base and the other is ace.. other then that who else on the yanks can u count on? the others are either old roided or just plain suck




Since: May 14, 2009
Posted on: January 25, 2011 3:33 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

find it a disgrace cashman would say that...  it takes more skill to play defense in the outfield.   Jeter's last gold glove is a joke the guy has no range and no arm.  
Saying the Red Sox are better is the truth, but it def wont play well with his boss



Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: January 25, 2011 3:16 pm
 

Cashman: Jeter likely to become OF

The Yankees should be in the thick of the playoff race and with some good trades, perhaps they will be able to win it all.


I agree, but the Jays and O's are also greatly improved.  Baltimore played much better with Showalter and they made some changes to improve the roster this winter and Toronto has the young pitching, so that makes them a threat.  But the wild card may come from the Central because the Twins are the best team there, but the White Sox are also greatly improved with the signing of Dunn and if Peavy is healthy.  Boston is clearly the team to beat in the East.  The Yankees should watch out more for Chicago and Toronto because they will be a much bigger threat to their playoff hopes.  And as for Crawford, I agree, but he is as fast as Gardiner, has a batter bat, and has a better glove, and is much more durable.  I don't think Gardiner is an everyday player (much less in the OF) and is a liability with his bat who is only dangerous if he gets on base.  But Jeter needs to bounce back with his average and the best way for that to happen is a position switch.  Here is an idea.  A-Roid's defensive skills have diminished and Jorge is a free agent after this year.  They can move Jeter to third in 2012 and put A Rod as the designated hitter.  But they need to acquire pitching.  Ivan Nova cannot be a main starter if this team is going to fight for playoff positioning.  Pitching will definitely be available as non contending teams look to unload at the deadline.  But they also need to get younger.


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