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Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

Posted on: January 28, 2011 8:39 pm
Edited on: January 28, 2011 8:42 pm
Vladimir Guerrero OK, I'm calling shenanigans on Vladimir Guerrero. I know, I know, calling shenanigans is not something to be taken lightly. But the unemployed designated hitter's story is not adding up.

The Orioles appear to be the only viable option for Guerrero's services at this point, and have reportedly made him an offer of somewhere just north of $3 million (plus incentives), which he reportedly thought was insulting. Today Buster Olney of ESPN reported via Twitter that Guerrero's camp is telling the Orioles the slugger has an offer on the table for $8 million. This raises several questions.

1) From whom? Who is left with a hole or an obvious upgrade need at DH who has that kind of money available? Maybe the Blue Jays are looking to spend some of their Vernon Wells money? The Angels want to have someone to share duties with Bobby Abreu? Other than that, AL teams are pretty much set and/or broke.

2) If this is true, why is Fern Cuza, Guerrero's agent, even going back to talk to the Orioles? Baltimore is clearly never going to be able to match that (Olney hears the O's can't go higher than $4.5 million, and that's including incentives). And it's not like Baltimore offers more of a chance to win this year than someone else. If he has an $8 million offer, why isn't he racing to sign it?

3) How dumb does Cuza think the Orioles are? Seriously, does he think Andy MacPhail is some rube who just fell off the GM truck? This just seems like disingenuous negotiating, which is not going to set a good tone.

The bottom line is, Guerrero and Cuza screwed up, overplaying their hand in an offseason in which there were more DH candidates than jobs. Now this game of musical chairs is winding down, the music has stopped and Guerrero is left alone with an ugly chair.

But that's no reason to start pulling shenanigans.

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  -- David Andriesen

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Since: Sep 11, 2009
Posted on: January 31, 2011 3:02 pm

Guerrero An Oriole or a Chiba Lotte Marine

VG has two options: Be a Baltimore Oriole or join the Chiba Lotte Marines. Though at this stage of VG's career I'm not sure he has what it takes to be a marine.

Since: May 5, 2010
Posted on: January 31, 2011 1:27 pm

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

Problem is that all Vlad can do now is hit and he barely did that in the playoffs. He is worth very little and he should be happy to get $4 mill from whoever is willing to waste that kind of money on a player who only hits when it doesn't matter...

Since: Apr 25, 2008
Posted on: January 31, 2011 11:49 am

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?


Since when is Camden Yards not a hitter's park? Atleast we agree on one thing... Vlad isn't worth 8 Mil.  But he wont get it.  I'm thinking he signs with Baltimore for 4 Mil plus some great incentives. (BA, HRs, All Star, etc.)

Since: Jan 23, 2011
Posted on: January 30, 2011 5:16 pm

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

Vlad"s agent should be fiired.  He waited too long to make a move this off season.  Now he's trying to get paid off 8 million on the river in a pot thats has 2 million in it while holding the nuts.  Nice value bet.

Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2011 9:58 pm

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

If Manny is only making $2 mil, there is no way Vlad should be making four times that amount, given the fact that they both can't run, can't play any position but DH, are both old and injury prone, and on the verge of retirement. I see that people want to believe Vlad can duplicate last years stats, but he's not going to play for a hitter friendly park if he goes to Balt, Tor, KC or LA, he's not going to have as much protection in the lineup (compared to the stacked lineup in Tex) and if the team he goes to isn't competitive this year, I doubt he's going to play to the best of his abilities if he's getting paid for just showing up. He's clearly trying to get one last million dollar payday before he retires (which any smart human being would try to do), and I think a realistic stat line for the 2011 season will be something like: 20hr, 75 rbi, .280 ba, which is still pretty good for someone Vlad's age, but it's not what you pay $8 mil for imo. 

Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2011 6:29 pm

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

So, you're saying that Vlad shouldn't sign with the Orioles because they haven't won in years past?  LOL  You're a clown bro!  Yes, the Rangers went to the World Series last year...but tell me genius, when was the last time, if ever, that they've won anything of relevance???  Vlad doesn't have many options at this point in the off-season, and if the O's have offered him a $3-4 million contract, why would it be so troubling for him to take that?  Yes, you're correct in thinking that the O's probably won't finish any higher than 3rd this year, but that's not to say that the playoffs/wildcard is an impossible feat...Vlad should be VERY lucky that you're not his agent  lmao!

Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2011 6:24 pm

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

I think that with the moves the Orioles already made this offseason that they've put themselves in position to finish somewhere other than the cellar of the AL East this year...and if they do sign Vlad to a one year contract, say, around $4 million or so, then their offense would definitely be a lot better than it has been over the last few years and would be able to give their pitchers some offense to work with...even if the O's don't sign Vlad, I like what the O's have done...they've upgraded with some proven veterans(Lee, Hardy, Reynolds) and with the exception of Lee, they didn't sign anyone that was too over the hill or way past their prime...and even more than that, they didn't over-pay...I'm truly exctied about this year as I think that the O's will finish at, or just above, .500 for the first time since 97'.... Go O's!!!

Since: Sep 29, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2011 6:22 pm

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

When it comes to winning percentage, the O's are the worst team in baseball since they last won the World Series in 1983. Come on, Vlad. A bluff of 5 million a year may have gotten some interest. But why are you giving the worst team a shot in the first place? Granted with their new manager and some quality acquisitions, the Orioles will make some noise but still finish no better than 3rd in the East.  

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2011 5:58 pm

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

If Guerrero has an $8 million offer then he should take it. Why is he even thinking of playing for the Orioles? The Orioles are one of the worse teams in baseball. Only the Royals, Nationals, Pirates and Diamondbacks and Mariners have done as poorly over the past 10 years. It seems that Gurerrero is telling the Orioles "I got an 8 million offer. If you want me to play for you then give me more". This latest incident concerning Guerrero shows how inept his agents are. The guy had a guaranteed $8 million offer from the Rangers. But now that is no longer available. I don't feel sorry for him. He might have been a great player in the "old" days, but now he is just a shell of his once glorious self. He should have resigned with the Rangers when he had the chance. I guess it shows that it does not pay to be greedy.

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2011 4:09 pm

Guerrero has $8M offer? Really?

I offered a dollar and a quarter and he did not get back to me.  8 mil.  Not a chance.  Vlad is a great hitter, but who is going to pay that much for a DH

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