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Pujols trade not an option

Posted on: January 29, 2011 11:56 am
Edited on: January 29, 2011 5:13 pm
 
Albert Pujols
Albert Pujols would exercise his 10-and-5 rights to veto any trade proposal, sources tell ESPN's Buster Olney, which leaves the Cardinals with two options: Sign him in the next three weeks, or hope to prevail when he enters free agency after the season.

The first baseman has said he won't be distracted by negotiating an extension once he reports for the season, which makes February 19 the deadline. If the Cardinals were to decide they wouldn't be able to afford Pujols, they could have softened the blow with a big haul they'd get by trading him to someone who wanted an impact addition and/or a leg up on courting him next winter. But if Pujols won't talk trade, the Cardinals will get nothing if they lose him (other than the two draft picks they'd receive for losing a Type A free agent).

Looks like it's all or nothing in the Gateway City.

-- David Andriesen

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Since: Jan 3, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2011 1:16 pm
 

Pujols trade not an option

Pujols trade not an option

The guy does things his way, and if there is a player who would stand up to the players union in order to play baseball where he loves, it's him.
He doesn't have that option, not at all.  Not even one player in today's game has that option or is allowed to make that choice.  Pujols is obligated to take every penny that is made available to him... if his agents and union tell him he can get more somewhere else, he can't take less... not allowed.  I hate unions more then anybody I know but I understand how they work... with all due respect you don't understand how unions operate.  He is an elite player and his job is to take every nickel made available to him.  It's different when a player signs an extension much before his original contract ends.. that doesn't affect anybody else because the team takes a risk as well. The union doesn't mind a player taking less 2 or 3 years before a contract ends because if he gets hurt, he gets paid his entire next deal...  but a union will not allow players to go into their last year and then give "home  team discounts"....

Joe Mauer is a Minnesota boy... loves it there.... lives a very modest life.... doesn't overspend.. doesn't live in a mansion.....  doesn't need anymore money.... blablabla.   He forced the Twins to pay him a whopping 180 plus million over 8 years.. he's A CATCHER...  very tough job and likely will be useless the last 3 years of that deal.  He's only 26 and already has knee problems....  yet they still paid him....  he said from the beginning money doesn't matter.... but guess what?  He wasn't allowed to sign for cheap... he is the best overall catcher in MLB from the last 10 or 15 years and the union DEMANDS he be paid... he can't just take what he wants to take and be a nice guy......

Neither can Pujols....





Ummmm....yes Redwings he is allowed. Cliff Lee just did it. Albeit not for significantly less (before you start throwing out the posted numbers of the deal, read into it. The max value of his contract with the Phillies is $135MM over 6 years. With the Rangers offer it was $138MM over six years. The Yanks was slightly less at $132MM over six years). The union absolutely CANNOT tell a player he cannot sign for a lesser contract. They can strongly suggest the player does not do it but IT IS ALLOWED. And yes players can give home team discounts. Which is what Pujols saidf he would do. As I metioned earlier in replying to one of your comments, which you then said I had no idea what I was talking about, Pujols said he would give a home team discount and was not looking to make a record deal. He wants to be there and the Cards want him. But there are numbers to crunch and it isnt something that will just "happen already" as you said earlier. I will say again, A DEAL WILL GET DONE.

And dont bring up the A-Rod issue from several years ago. That is a completely different case. A-Rod was already under a signed contract and the union as well as comissioner would not let him void the contract or decrease the value of it since it was already signed and agreed upon.




Since: Jan 3, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2011 1:13 pm
 

Pujols trade not an option

Ummmm....yes he is allowed. Cliff Lee just did it. Albeit not for significantly less (before you start throwing out the posted numbers of the deal, read into it. The max value of his contract with the Phillies is $135MM over 6 years. With the Rangers offer it was $138MM over six years. The Yanks was slightly less at $132MM over six years). The union absolutely CANNOT tell a player he cannot sign for a lesser contract. They can strongly suggest the player does not do it but IT IS ALLOWED. And yes players can give home team discounts. Which is what Pujols saidf he would do. As I metioned earlier in replying to one of your comments, which you then said I had no idea what I was talking about, Pujols said he would give a home team discount and was not looking to make a record deal. He wants to be there and the Cards want him. But there are numbers to crunch and it isnt something that will just "happen already" as you said earlier. I will say again, A DEAL WILL GET DONE.

And dont bring up the A-Rod issue from several years ago. That is a completely different case. A-Rod was already under a signed contract and the union as well as comissioner would not let him void the contract or decrease the value of it since it was already signed and agreed upon.



Since: Apr 10, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2011 1:00 pm
 

Pujols trade not an option

just give him what ever he wants and get it over with do you want to be the ones known for letting el hombre get away



Since: Dec 23, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2011 12:58 pm
 

Pujols trade not an option

Dream all you want Pujols suitors. You have a better chance of winning the Lottery. The Cardnials will sign him. Now we will all wait see how much he makes. That is all were waitting for. He will sign with the Cardinals. Carpenter and Loshe will not be resigned after this Year and that has to be between 20 to 25 Million Dollars a Year to go towards Pujols Contract. The Fans will continue to fill the stadium at the tune of 3 Million a Year. The money will be there so go play the lottery as you chances of getting the Great Albert Pujols is ZERO



Since: Jan 30, 2011
Posted on: January 30, 2011 12:52 pm
 

Albert stays...period!

Put it in stone... Albert's not going anywhere. Sorry, dreamers. The brass will work out deferred payments and consultant/advisor position down the road. He is Stan the Man of the 21st Century and he's entrenched himself in the St. Louis Community. He'll take a small home team discount with promises that the Cards will strive for Championship status. ( They locked up Holliday to prove the point.) Don't ever assume that the Cards are going to wallow in mediocrity with a lineup of aces and spaces.



Since: Nov 18, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2011 12:31 pm
 

Pujols trade not an option

Pujols goes to San Francisco Giants....Now that would work for a long time; with our pitching and Posey plus a rookie, people will get to know this year.Branden Belt

I would have to agree if the Giants got ahold of Pujols it could really make the Giants deadly.  Their pitching staff is young and good.  They won the the WS without much in the way of an offense.  Can't imagine that pitching staff shutting opposing hitters down, and then the other team having to face a linup with Albert.  It could be just the right fit for this deal.  San Fran has their pitching staff signed, and really just needs one big player to round out their offence.  Dang it!  I am really hoping to see Albert in Cubbie Blue, but it really does sound like a good fit on paper for him to go to the Giants.

Hey as long as the Cubs don't have to face him 20 games a year, I guess I can live with that.



Since: Sep 20, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2011 11:38 am
 

Pujols trade not an option

Pujols goes to San Francisco Giants....Now that would work for a long time; with our pitching and Posey plus a rookie, people will get to know this year.Branden Belt.Money mouth



Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2011 11:24 am
 

Pujols trade not an option

First of all, if I were the Cardinals and sign him to a long term contract, I would make sure there is a clause in their if he was caught taking HGH.  They currently don't test for that, but if they do....he could physically break down.

Secondly, has no one learned from the Griffey signing?  Griffey may have been the best player in baseball before he signed with the Reds long term.  It seemed like a steal for the Reds, but Griffey continued to decline.  Chances are good that a long term signing to Pujols could hurt the Cardinals for a lot of years.

Thirdly, how much more of my money does Pujols need?  With 3 kids it is getting more and more difficult to afford a ticket for a Cardinal game or any other game.  To pay for Pujols, the Cardinals will have to raise ticket prices another $10 or so a piece.  Signing Pujols might price my family out of the game. The Cubs have already spent a lot of dollars and raised ticket prices to the point where I can't afford it.



Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: January 30, 2011 11:01 am
 

Pujols trade not an option

If it's going to cost 30 mil, let him walk.  I'm a Cards fan, and I went to games before Albert, and I'll go after Albert.  Especially if he wants 10 years.  There's no way they should pay that kind of money to a guy whose contract will end, when he's in his 40s.  We spend 30 mil on Albert a year, and the team will look like it did in 2008.  All of the money is going to a handful of players, while they find the rest of the team in the bargain bin and hope they can compete. 



Since: Apr 28, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2011 10:56 am
 

Pujols trade not an option

Hey EE, I would not say that to loud or to Albert's face.  I have never heard anything all that bad about Albert, maybe someone could bring me up to date on this as I may be misinformed.  He has never been in trouble as far as I know, someone feel free to correct me.  I doubt seriously he cheats.  As for insulting his wife, that says more about you than her.  Keep your opinion to your self and deal with the facts.  The facts are Albert is a pretty good ball player and is in a position to make demands.  Most of us, if we were him, would make some too.  As a Met's fan you are welcome in Citi Field as long as you are in a Met's uniform or street clothes.  We will trade Oliver Perez, John Maine and the Bronxs, home of that other team.


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