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Pujols negotiations going slowly

Posted on: February 8, 2011 5:39 pm
Edited on: February 9, 2011 5:31 am
 
Albert Pujols Once unthinkable, with every day between now and Albert Pujols' self-imposed Feb. 16 deadline for a contract extension, the odds get better that we'll see Pujols play somewhere other than St. Louis.

Tim Brown of Yahoo! writes that as of this weekend, the Cardinals have yet to make a concrete offer to Pujols as of this weekend.

Pujols is thought to be looking for Alex Rodriguez-type money -- meaning somewhere around $300 million for at least 10 years. Those types of deals are tough to get done in a week.

The Cardinals have been quiet throughout these negotiations, as have Pujols and his agent, Dan Lozano. Pujols' only bit of leaked information is that when he reaches Cardinals camp in Jupiter, Fla., on Feb. 16, he will call off negotiations for the season, meaning he'll likely end up a free agent.

Of course, just because he's a free agent doesn't mean Pujols won't eventually re-sign with the Cardinals.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2011 2:53 pm
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

Just what the Yankees need, another guy on the backside of his prime making way too much money. You do realize that by the time the Yankees might get him he will be 32, right? So, you think it is a good move to throw, say, 7 years and 200 million dollars at a 32 year old with a bad elbow, let alone 10 years and 300 million dollars?



Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2011 2:40 pm
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

I don't really think he is going to the Yankees, that was just an example. There are other teams besides the Yankees and Red Sox who will pay it. There are a ton of teams who need a great 1B including some teams with the money to pay him like Texas or the Angels. It's just hard to imagine the Yankees taking a chance on Pujols after getting burned twice with Alex Rodriguez.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2011 12:46 pm
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

Pujols is going to look good in Pinstripes



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 9, 2011 10:53 am
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

And expecting a hometown discount is crazy anyways. It's a team's way to justify being cheap. If the team expects hometown discounts from players, then fans should expect hometown discounts on tickets from teams they've been loyal to for years. And until the owners are willing to give their fans a hometown discount, then they shouldn't expect the players to take them either. It's all about money and business to the owners, so why shouldn't the players see it the same way?

There is NO SUCH THING AS A HOME DISCOUNT for players like Pujols and players anywhere near his class.  The only exception is if and only if the extension is negotiated in advance.  Like with 2 or 3 years left on a players current deal, his team offers him a guaranteed extension for big money.  A player now takes less, but although they SAY it's a home discount it really isn't.  The player guarantees himself that if he gets hurt or his numbers suddenly drop, he's guaranteed big money in advance.   If there is one other exception it's when a player has never made big money in his life,,, coming off a 2 or 3 million dollar per year deal and is offered a massive extension... but Pujols isn't in that category either.. he's made over 100 million dollars in his life plus endorsements.....

When a player like Pujols becomes available as an UFA and only has 1 year left on his deal, there is no home discount.  Twins fans thought they were going to get a home discount from Mauer. I heard it all... he's from here.. he loves Minny... he doesn't care about money... he lives a modest life... doesn't live in a mansion... doesn't drive fancy cars... he's down to earth... blablabla....  in the end, the Twins paid him by far the most any catcher has even dreamed of in his life let alone made in MLB....... 

And the Cards will either pay up or Pujols will waive goodbye..... Cards fans need to get off their knees and quit using that "home discount" thing because there is ZERO CHANCE they are getting it with Pujols... ZERO....

Cards management sucks.. the worst in baseball to let this happen.  They let Pujols become a 10-5 player that can veto a trade....  two years ago if they would have put him on the block, teams would have tripped over themselves to get the guy.  Teams would have mortgaged their future and the Cards would have secured players and top prospects that could have made them BETTER for years then they will be WITH Pujols.... instead they waited until now... the day has come where Pujols has ALL of the control and power...

STUPID MANAGEMENT.... JUST FLAT OUT STUPID... DUMB... EMBARASSING...

If I was a Cards fan, I would be tripping out .... what a loser management team...



Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2011 10:33 am
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

Someone will overpay Albert and life will go on.

These huge deals never work out in the best interest of the teams giving them.



Since: Aug 25, 2010
Posted on: February 9, 2011 9:24 am
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

Can you say "blockbuster deal ... Pujols for Teixeira?". One word:  Wow.



Since: Nov 22, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2011 9:13 am
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

Wrong.  Garcia is not even up for arbitration until 2012 and they have him under control through (at a minimum) 2014.  Wainwright does not become a free agent until 2014 and neither does Westbrook.  The Cards have a team option on Carp for 2012 and Loshe is gone after 2013.  Do you honestly think they signed Holliday without taking into very, very serious consideration that AP's contract was coming up in the next 2 years????  Look at the facts before you post BRO!



Since: Feb 26, 2010
Posted on: February 9, 2011 7:26 am
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

I couldn't agree with you more, chiledipper.  If the Cardinals want a home town discount, then they should offer it to the fans.  The fact is, the Cardinals made their mistake years ago - they should have worked a deal long before now to get an extension done to guarantee Pujols would be a Cardinal for life.  A 10 year deal now doensn't make sense because Pujols just turned 31.  Without steroids, players are (once again) not likely to play into their 40's.  If the Cardinals were truely business savy (obviously they are NOT), they would have PLANNED for Pujols' final contract.  At 28 they could have offered him a huge 10 year contract extension.  That would have ensured he stayed a Cardinal until he was 38.  If he continued to play past 38, he would be worth less money, or would not be a very big loss if he went free agent.  The Cardinals would have also saved a boat load of money.  If they did the deal 3 years ago they probably would have been able to spend less than they will have to pay now.  It's just time value of money - everything costs more in the future...or put another way...it costs less in the past...



Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2011 1:55 am
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly



There is no way he will accept a contract of only 5 years and at 25 million guaranteed money with loads of incentives, when other teams like the New York Yankees will hand a guy like him any amount he wants. The Yankees will just sign him and make him their DH or move Mark Teixeira to DH.

The truth of the matter is this is all the St. Louis Cardinals fault.  They knew Albert Pujols was going to be a free agent, and knew the money he would command. They just expected him to take a huge hometown discount when they signed all these free agents. Now that they realize he won't take the kinda discount they expected and their at ends because of it. They may just decide to let him go thinking if he doesn't take the money they are willing to give him then he's not really a team player and only cares about money.

And if they don't sign him that will be their excuse to the fans that they tried to sign Albert Pujols but they couldn't afford to pay him. It will be their way of telling the fans that Pujols is not a team player, and is just another ARod where money is all that matters.

And expecting a hometown discount is crazy anyways. It's a team's way to justify being cheap. If the team expects hometown discounts from players, then fans should expect hometown discounts on tickets from teams they've been loyal to for years. And until the owners are willing to give their fans a hometown discount, then they shouldn't expect the players to take them either. It's all about money and business to the owners, so why shouldn't the players see it the same way?



Since: Feb 8, 2011
Posted on: February 8, 2011 11:19 pm
 

Pujols negotiations going slowly

The Don Rey.....

"Pujols is a great hitter but fails as a role model and a leader." 
That might be the most ridiculous comment I have ever heard regarding one of THE BEST role models in sports! You obviously don't know much about Albert and his involvement in the community especially when it comes to his foundation helping people with down syndrome. Or the fact that he addopted a down syndrome baby...Could you do that? Do a little research next time before spouting off.


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