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Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Posted on: February 9, 2011 6:06 pm
Edited on: February 9, 2011 8:50 pm
 
Albert Pujols While not being specific on the source of the information, Jon Heyman of SI.com says via Twitter that he's hearing Albert Pujols and the Cardinals are still far apart on a contract extension, leaving "virtually no chance" of a deal being reached by Pujols' February 16 negotiating deadline. The first baseman said he won't talk contract once he reports for spring training, which means he'd become a free agent at the conclusion of the season.

Heyman says Pujols' people want something comparable to Alex Rodriguez's 10-year, $275 million deal, while the Cards would like to keep it to six or seven years for the 31-year-old.

The passing of the February 16 date wouldn't mean the end of Pujols in St. Louis, but it would set up an uncertain summer for Cardinals fans. For his part,  CBSSports.com columnist Scott Miller thinks someday, some way, the deal will get done for Pujols to remain a Cardinal.

UPDATE: A good reminder from Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com that the Cardinals will have exclusive negotiating rights with Pujols from the end of the team's season until five days after the end of the World Series. So it's not like he gets thrown into open free agency automatically if the Feb. 16 date passes.

-- David Andriesen

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Comments

Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2011 8:31 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

LOL @ "skills diminishing".. He is ranked #1, no lower than #2 in every fantasy baseball pre-draft ranking board. He had and still has PLENTY of room to diminish before he joins the rest of the pack. He has more strikeouts because he is forced to make more happen, there is less talent infront of him. The team used 14 different players at leadoff last year. Forcing Albert to swing for the fences more than he would normally do. Cant get rbi's if nobody is on base.




Since: Mar 11, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:36 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Here are the facts: 1) Pujols is the best player in the game (some can argue... but any way you dice it.. the stats speak for themselves over the past 8-9 years)

2) St Louis has money. I am not buying into this whole "oh, we cannot afford to pay one player this amt of money.. if he really wnated to stay in St Louis, he'd take a discount." more " I don't want my ticket prices to go up anymore than they already have.. good luck with your future endeavors..." Poppycock.

Pujols has built up this franchise over the last 8 years, and quite frankly, he has already taken his home town discount. He has produced the most wins over replacement level than any other 1st baseman, perhaps any other ballplayer over those years (80+ Wins) btw Teixiera has 36+ wins over replacement during the same timeperiod.. Arod has 70+ wins over replacement... When compared to other free agents on the market.. he is worth 41 MM in 08, 39 MM in 09, 29 MM in 2010 (fangraphs), compared to his salary of 14 MM and up.

It is time for St Louis to PAY WHAT THEY OWE! As late as 2008 (latest receipts) the Cards had over 60 MM in profits for the year.. that beats, PIttsburgh and Florida Marlins at the top of the list (PItt and FLA are luxury tax recipients.. yet have a higher profit margin than 27 other teams hmmm.. a subject for a different post), this according to Forbes .com... They are the 9th highest valued franchise in the league. It is possible that htey have taken a turn for the worst since this time.. but unlikely. They have increaded their value every year since 1995 up to this point, so why would they go down now (although losing Walt Jockety could be a hit in value...)?

I think a salary offer of 30-32MM per for 8-10 years is reasonable, considering what Pujols brings to the table. He is a player like no other in the league. He mashes the ball, has superior defensive skills, and continues to run the bases at a plus rate for his age. Let's put a pin in this talk, and do what's right for the game, the fans, and for Albert Pujols.




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 4:04 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

It has been fun watching you Albert but I am NOT going to pay higher ticket prices and mortage the house so I can attend a game. Trade him and get something in return. No matter where you go you will never play baseball for fans like you have had here so enjoy free agency Albert, enjoy that big fat paycheck but you will never win another World Series with another team.

Stupid post.  First of all, you can't trade him without his permission and he already said he will veto any trade.  He's a 10-5 player.  If the Cards management had any brains they would have dealt with this a year ago when they could have traded him... but they didn't.

Why can't he win a World Series somewhere else?  Have the Cards dominated baseball or something?  They won ONE World Series in the last how many years?   And even then it took playing a mediocre Tigers team that threw away game after game with a record amount of throwing errors by pitchers or the Cards don't even get one ring.

Take it easy dude.. you're gonna have a heart attack.  Like I said, it's not that hard... pay him or he leaves.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 4:00 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

But I do think if he wants to stay in St.Louis he will and he will still be one of the highest paid players.

One of the highest players isn't good enough for him.... he feels he's the best player and should be paid the most for being the best.

The Cardinals will make him a very good offer and if he turns it down, then he really doesn't want to stay in St.Louis. 

Not true.  He wants to play in St Louis. If he didn't he would have just said no to negotiating or agreed to be traded. 

He wants to play in St Louis on his terms, that's all.   Everybody is complicating things here... it's easy, let me sum it up.

He's the BEST player in baseball so he wants to make MORE MONEY then anybody else.

If the Cards say yes, it's all done.  He retires in St Louis.

If the Cards hold their ground and say no, he leaves after the season.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?  It's not.... quit trying to read too much into it.... like somebody else said a couple posts ago, all these guys care about is MONEY........

There are no exceptions... money money money.... that's it. 




Since: Mar 8, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2011 4:00 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

He wants 10 years/ 300 million and he is going to get that. St Louis or no St Louis. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 3:55 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Lebron James took 7 million less. Don't even get me started on the New England Patriots players. I can name at least 8 players on that Pats team that took serious pay cuts to play for a great franchise and a winner.

Lebron James also makes approximately 35 million dollars per year in endorsements outside of basketball.  And that was before he went to Miami where that number is sure to go up a little bit.

Lebron James also went from a team that couldn't win a championship to one he believes he can....

Pujols will never make 35 million or more in endorsements per season long term... and Pujols isn't decreasing his chances of winning a championship leaving St Louis for the Yankees or Boston or another big market team.  If anything his chances increase..

Compare apples to apples dude..



Since: Jun 13, 2010
Posted on: February 10, 2011 3:30 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Why is St. Louis the "best organization in all of baseball"? Is it because your fans are loveable losers? I do not understand why this city gets all of the respect it gets. Because you do not boo your players? Show some emotion...show some care...boo when they deserve it and cheer when they deserve it.

St. Louis is a second rate baseball city. Philadelphia Phillies all the way!



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2011 2:38 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Lets face reality. Albert Pujols wants to get paid like the best player in the game. You can't fault him for that. In 4 years when Hanley Ramirez's contract is up and Pujols is on the decline the Yankees will make him the highest paid player in baseball too. These guys don't care about  anything but money, but I'm pretty sure Hanley might get run out of New York if he does half the crap he does in Florida over in the Bronx.

Anyways, what is Pujols worth over the next 10 seasons? I say about 140 million. No that is not 14 million per season. He should get in the high 20s, low 30s until he finishes his prime then there should be a drastic drop below 10 million when he is clearly finished. This is why the Cardinals will not pay him, because he wants a deal that will overpay him by 20 million when he casn no longer field his position or hit the ball.





Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2011 2:32 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Lebron James took 7 million less. Don't even get me started on the New England Patriots players. I can name at least 8 players on that Pats team that took serious pay cuts to play for a great franchise and a winner.



Since: Jun 13, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 1:47 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

redwings1969 is right that Pujols is better than A-Rod, but that doesn't mean he's going to get a 10-year contract. The Yankees could sign Pujols. People forget that Pujols has played third base and outfield in the past. Maybe Pujols would end up being the Yankees left fielder.

But I do think if he wants to stay in St.Louis he will and he will still be one of the highest paid players. Yes Pujols is already filthy rich and will get more rich before his playing days end, but it is up to him whether he stays. The Cardinals will make him a very good offer and if he turns it down, then he really doesn't want to stay in St.Louis. 

It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I think Pujols will be playing for the Cardinals for just one last season this year.  


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