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Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Posted on: February 9, 2011 6:06 pm
Edited on: February 9, 2011 8:50 pm
 
Albert Pujols While not being specific on the source of the information, Jon Heyman of SI.com says via Twitter that he's hearing Albert Pujols and the Cardinals are still far apart on a contract extension, leaving "virtually no chance" of a deal being reached by Pujols' February 16 negotiating deadline. The first baseman said he won't talk contract once he reports for spring training, which means he'd become a free agent at the conclusion of the season.

Heyman says Pujols' people want something comparable to Alex Rodriguez's 10-year, $275 million deal, while the Cards would like to keep it to six or seven years for the 31-year-old.

The passing of the February 16 date wouldn't mean the end of Pujols in St. Louis, but it would set up an uncertain summer for Cardinals fans. For his part,  CBSSports.com columnist Scott Miller thinks someday, some way, the deal will get done for Pujols to remain a Cardinal.

UPDATE: A good reminder from Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com that the Cardinals will have exclusive negotiating rights with Pujols from the end of the team's season until five days after the end of the World Series. So it's not like he gets thrown into open free agency automatically if the Feb. 16 date passes.

-- David Andriesen

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Comments

Since: Nov 20, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 1:23 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

See ya Albert! I don't care who you are or what you have done! Nobody and I mean nobody is worth this type of money to play a game. So you took the hometown discount all thses years to play for the best organization in all of baseball. I call that smart ownership and a GM that isn't going to give in like some of these other organizations. It has been fun watching you Albert but I am NOT going to pay higher ticket prices and mortage the house so I can attend a game. Trade him and get something in return. No matter where you go you will never play baseball for fans like you have had here so enjoy free agency Albert, enjoy that big fat paycheck but you will never win another World Series with another team.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 12:48 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

If Pujols really wants to stay in St.Louis, he will and will still be paid tens of miilions of dollars more in addition to the millions he's already been paid. If he doesn't, he should stop being disingenious and stop saying he wants to stay while holding out for an unrealistic contract.

He already said multiple times probably that he prefers to stay in St Louis.  But.. the money has to be right.... end of story.   He's not being disingenious at all.... he WANTS to stay but might not be able to.....  he's not going to take a lot less then he feels he's worth and less then the market dictates just to stay in St Louis... no way.....  players of his caliber don't do that in any sport and never will.... ever.

He's much better then Arod is, always was.  And if he would have had Arod's supporting cast I can't even imagine the numbers he would have put up in New York.  Throw in the new Yankee Stadium and that short right field porch and oh my God.... it's all over. 

I don't have the exact numbers but I think Pujols has made about 100 million dollars so far? By the time ARod is done, he'll have grossed well over 400 million dollars in his career... just in salary alone.   What makes you think Pujols doesn't want every penny Arod is getting???

He's won a championship.. he's won an MVP.... he's won everything he needed to win.. now it's time to make up for lost time and make some money...  I know you'll say he's filthy rich and he doesn't need it, but that's not true.  These athletes live in their own world.. they don't live in our world financially....



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 12:40 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Bosox have nobody at 1st base....Right......Come on man!! Pujols is not the  be all end all...And at 31, he is not worth that kinda money for a few good years...
You obviously don't understand what I'm saying so I'll try one more time.  This is not about Pujols being the be all end all... he isn't and nobody out there is.   This is about Pujols being the best and most consistent hitter in all of baseball for years.  This is about a guy that has made at least 150 million dollars less in his career so far then Arod has... he's better then Arod....   he wants to make at least as much as Arod does....  

As for the Bosox, are you telling me they have somebody at 1st base that's even nearly as good as Pujols is???  No, right?  So why wouldn't the Bosox be interested?   They have plenty of money and THERE IS NO HARD CAP IN MLB !!!

Maybe if I keep saying that, somebody will listen and understand... he's the best hitter in baseball,, an unbelievable hitter who might become available to the highest bidder with nothing but a couple of draft picks going the other way.... he's going to get his money....



Since: Oct 18, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 12:37 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

As a Cardinal fan, Albert deserves all the money the market will bear. I willing to accept if he decides to leave. We will have had 11 great years from him. You would think the Cardinals would pay the money. You need to ask the fans who attend the games are they willing to pay more money to see Albert and company play. Also, remember Wainwright is due a huge pay raise. Its a tough decision for the organization. A-Rod has scared everybody from huge contract and the end of their carreers.




Since: Jun 13, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 12:10 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

This is insane. The Cardinals should just let Pujols walk when his contract is up. You know, who will play third base for the Cardinals? What kind of pitching will they have? Baseball is a team game and giving one player $30-odd million a year means the rest of your lineup will be comprised of Matt Holliday and lesser talent and your team doesn't win despite having the best hitter in the game.

Maybe Pujols wants to go to New York. He'd better be prepared to deal with the media there. It's nothing like St. Louis where he is treated much easier.  New York is the toughest place to play. Philadelphia is not tea with the queen either. If he doesn't help his New York team win, he will face criticism he can't imagine now. Maybe he should talk to A-Rod about how that bile tastes.

If Pujols really wants to stay in St.Louis, he will and will still be paid tens of miilions of dollars more in addition to the millions he's already been paid. If he doesn't, he should stop being disingenious and stop saying he wants to stay while holding out for an unrealistic contract.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 11:38 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Five years and $125 I'm okay with

If the Cards take your advice and don't offer more than this Pujols is gone and, based on the market, rightfully so.  No way Pujols takes less years than Holliday, Werth, Howard, Crawford, etc and very unlikely he takes a contract value of "only" $25mill per year, not when you compare numbers with A-Rod, Howard, Werth, Tex, etc etc.  My guess is the Card and Pujols get a deal done at somewhere around 7 years and $200 to $210 million (probably with a lot of deferred money).



Since: Apr 30, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 11:35 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Bosox have nobody at 1st base....Right......Come on man!! Pujols is not the  be all end all...And at 31, he is not worth that kinda money for a few good years...



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 10:35 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

He's not going to the Yankees, position filled.  Not going to the Mets, no money if you've been paying attention.  Five years and $125 I'm okay with.  Anything above that, si yo nara. 

Why isn't he going to the Yankees? Tell me one more time why???  Because Tex is there???  So what??  Pujols is a MUCH better hitter then Tex is....  you're telling me they can't alternate between first base and D.H?  You're telling me they can't trade Tex, get some great prospects in return and give up some cash to close the deals?  As for the Mets, how do you know what financial position the Mets will be in come 2012?  And why didn't you mention the Bosox in your post?  What about them? Who do they have at first base that even remotely compares to Pujols?  Answer: nobody. 

Trust me... somebody WILL pay Albert Pujols if the Cardinals don't...  and if you think otherwise, you are dillusional my friend..... the guy is THAT good....  once again, do I think he should make that kind of money?  No.  I don't think ANYBODY should make that kind of money on this planet for playing a game... but the fact remains that he is right now the best hitter in all of baseball.  The fact remains he's only going to be 32 when he becomes an UFA and another fact is if he retired today, he's a first ballot hall of famer.

Those are the reasons somebody will pony up between 275 and 300 million for him..... once again, and I'll say it over and over and over and over until it registers in some of your heads,  BASEBALL DOESN'T HAVE A HARD CAP.....  there are teams with plenty of money.... it's only a luxury tax they pay for going over the limit set by the league....  there are teams that don't care,, they can and will spend money on a guy like that...

The Cards management team should be fired.  They could have traded him a year or two ago and got enough in return to be competitive for years.   They waited until he became a 10-5 player where he could veto a trade.... where he could go public saying he won't accept a trade thus forcing the Cards hand now... 

Pujols has ALL the power.... right or wrong, it doesn't matter. The Cards have to pay up or lose him for a couple of draft picks that may or may not work out for them.....  that's what you get for waiting until the last second and being stupid...

In the NBA the Raptors did it with Bosh, got nothing.  The Cavs did it with Lebron and got nothing.  The Nuggets waited until the last second with Melo and are going to get about the same.... nothing.

That's about what the Cards are going to get now if they don't pay.... nothing. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 10:23 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

But the Cards right now don't want 10 Years and this is what its all about. Not 30 Mil a Year. Its paying him till 41 Years old.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying anybody should make that kind of money, especially up until they turn 40 years old in MLB.  I'm just stating the obvious, and the obvious is that Albert Pujols isn't going to take much less then that.... and another obvious thing some people on these boards are missing is that SOMEBODY WILL pay him that kind of money if he plays out this season and puts up the numbers he normally puts up.  Is it right?  No.  Is it fair? No.  Does it make sense financially? No.   But baseball doesn't have a hard cap and probably never will.... so there will be a team that is more then willing to pay him Arod money and if the last 4 years of the new deal are useless years, nobody will care because it's only money.. something plenty of teams in MLB have.....  now, if this was a league with a hard cap things would be different... but there's no chance that's happening....  these are very wealthy players in MLB and if the league ever tried to do that, they would sit out a full season and not miss a beat.  MLB got killed in their last work stoppage.. they won't challenge the players...





Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2011 10:12 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

muhahahahha  Start spreading the news.....


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