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Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Posted on: February 9, 2011 6:06 pm
Edited on: February 9, 2011 8:50 pm
 
Albert Pujols While not being specific on the source of the information, Jon Heyman of SI.com says via Twitter that he's hearing Albert Pujols and the Cardinals are still far apart on a contract extension, leaving "virtually no chance" of a deal being reached by Pujols' February 16 negotiating deadline. The first baseman said he won't talk contract once he reports for spring training, which means he'd become a free agent at the conclusion of the season.

Heyman says Pujols' people want something comparable to Alex Rodriguez's 10-year, $275 million deal, while the Cards would like to keep it to six or seven years for the 31-year-old.

The passing of the February 16 date wouldn't mean the end of Pujols in St. Louis, but it would set up an uncertain summer for Cardinals fans. For his part,  CBSSports.com columnist Scott Miller thinks someday, some way, the deal will get done for Pujols to remain a Cardinal.

UPDATE: A good reminder from Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com that the Cardinals will have exclusive negotiating rights with Pujols from the end of the team's season until five days after the end of the World Series. So it's not like he gets thrown into open free agency automatically if the Feb. 16 date passes.

-- David Andriesen

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Since: Oct 15, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 9:41 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

I totaly agree with the points about latin players all wanting to play for NY...Crap you could extend that to the whole world but, if he goes to NY he is just another player in NY...If they win a few championships thats just a few more to add to the pile of rings they already have.

Everytime he wins in St. Louis he is proving that you dont have to be NY to win.....And if he decieds to win one in Chicago then that will catipult him to Babe Ruth status....A status he could never achive while playing in his shadow in NY




Since: May 9, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 9:08 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

I wonder if the Yankees are regretting that deal with ARod.  Seems like they gave him all that money and only have 1 ring to show for it.  The guy can't even produce in the playoffs when you'd think that would be the time that he earns his money. 

Nothing against Albert, i'm a Cubs fan so i've seen this guy kill us year in and year out.  Giving that much money to him, with him being 31 years old, seems like it would set the Cardinals back years.  Which is fine by me. They should split the difference and give him a 5yr,$150 million deal.  Still out of hand but at least you're not handcuffed with him for another 5 years when his skills start to decline.  Injuries are only going to start piling up and he's in the NL so he can't DH.  I agree the man has to get paid, but for his age/asking price, i'd let someone else do it.



Since: Nov 3, 2010
Posted on: February 10, 2011 8:34 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

No team in their right baseball mind will give AP that kind of money and length of contract.  Between Albert, Holliday, and Losch that's nearly 70 mil in salary.  Look at his numbers over the past three years.  Strikeouts up, BA down.  Homers the same.  Skills diminishing.  That fifth, sixth, seventh year is where there's no return on a huge investment.  He's not going to the Yankees, position filled.  Not going to the Mets, no money if you've been paying attention.  Five years and $125 I'm okay with.  Anything above that, si yo nara. 



Since: Feb 29, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 6:50 am
 

Mets Best Fit, Yankees Best $$ - Cuban/Pujols?

This looks like someone wants to get on the big stage to me.  That would be New York, folks.  Sorry to say that's where the big stage is, but I think we all know that's true to a certain extent.  When kids dream about playing ball, unless they grew up in Saint Louis, they are not dreaming about playing ball for the Cardinals.  Half the population of Latin America dreams about playing for either the Yankees or Mets.  I would have to think that Albert is no different.  Deep down there, somewhere, is the urge to be on the BIG stage.  To live out the REAL dream, just likd AROD did, and countless other players who started with teams outside of New York, but then were dragged there by their own secret desires.  I truly believe that this is the case with Albert.  It's not really about the money, but the money can easily be used as a rationale to leave.  The Mets are the best fit for him, because as Lou Costello would often say "Who's on First?"  Not too many people in or out of baseball can answer that question for the Mets.  But they are in financial turmoil with the Madoff catastrophe, and the only way that Albert goes to the Mets is if Mark Cuban takes over the ownership there.  That in itself is an intriguing possibility.  Who could turn that franchise around faster than Albert Pujols?  And who could afford him more than Mark Cuban?
The Yankees.  The dreaded, hated Evil Empire could afford him more than three Mark Cubans, but he is really not a great fit there because either he or Mark Texieria, (we don't have to ask Who's on First?" for this team) would have to become the DH.  Mark is not a kid anymore and neither is Albert for that matter.  So who gets to field?  Who gets to DH?  Would they share the load?  Who knows?  As fearsome  as the Yankee lineup is already (and if you ask any pitcher in the AL which lineup they do not want to pitch against, it is this one), could you imagine the lineup with Pujols added?  Texieria from the left side and Pujols from the right side would make any pitching matchup virtually meaningless.  Add Cano to the left side and AROD to the right side and you have two killers from each side.  I wouldn't want to pitch against that, would you?  So in the final analysis, if a marriage between Mark Cuban and Pujols could be arranged secretly in advance (like that never happens), then the Mets could return to the spotlight in baseball.  If the Yankees get him, they will still need a four and five pitcher, but that is a lot easier to fill than getting Albert Pujols.
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Since: Sep 12, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2011 6:17 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

No team will pay a 31 year old hitter 30 mil over ten years. 30 over 5 years, maybe. He has little leverage in this deal



Since: Dec 23, 2010
Posted on: February 10, 2011 3:17 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Your correct redwings 1969 (It's not that hard... The Cards should either offer him his 300 million dollars or just stop talking...)
The Cards have the money. They can do what Yankees Did with thier YES Station. STL loves thier baseball. The market would be hugh for STL to create empire like Yanks did. But the Cards right now don't want 10 Years and this is what its all about. Not 30 Mil a Year. Its paying him till 41 Years old.  I would hate for him to go but after ahile this gets tiresome and pointless. Now we cant get any players back for him. Insane how a organization could wait and let this happen. So you said it clearly sign him or end it and lets have a great Year .



Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2011 2:45 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

I think it isnt even about money. How does this team not make the plaoffs every year without question. I think he wants a turn in a bigger market. I think he has worn tired of STL. In my eyes, this team has always underachieved since winning the WS. They have an extraordinary balance to their team. They should be doing better than they do. If they dont trade him they risk years of setback. There is a reason the Yankees did nothing with their money after missing on Cliff Lee. And all they have for DH is Russell Martin.. its obvious to me where this is going. So Albert is going to have to wear something other than #5 in NYC. The evil empire is about to strike again. unfortunately...



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 1:09 am
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Why not just front load his contract? 8 years at $240 million. 40,40,35,35,30,25,20,15 with $180 million garaunteed through the 5th year and a club option for year 6 seeing how his skills might diminish at age 36

Why not offer him that deal?  Because he wouldn't take it, that's why.  With all due respect, I don't know if you've been following this closely but rumour has it Pujols wants to make Arod money or more.... not less.   Arod money is 275 million .... since he's better then Arod now and probably better then he ever was, he probably wants 300 million...

Your offer means he takes anything from 35 to 60 million dollars less to stay in St Louis.... I told you guys there will not be a home team discount here.... never had a chance of such a thing happening....

It's not that hard... The Cards should either offer him his 300 million dollars or just stop talking.....



Since: Sep 11, 2009
Posted on: February 9, 2011 11:09 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

You gotta take into account that were still in a sluggish economy and will be for the near future and your talking about 80 mil over the next 2 years on one guy?   That's simply unrealistic.  The Cards don't even wanna be at 30 per, and i don't blame them cause big men breakdown fast..



Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2011 6:23 pm
 

Report: 'Virtually no chance' on Pujols deal

Why not just front load his contract? 8 years at $240 million. 40,40,35,35,30,25,20,15 with $180 million garaunteed through the 5th year and a club option for year 6 seeing how his skills might diminish at age 36. Obviously $40 million is a lot of payroll for just one guy. I don't think St. Louis could afford this type of contract but some other teams can. Pujols has to be a little realistic. He can't expect to be putting up the same numbers past 36 or 37 years of age. Or maybe he does.


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