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Twins considering trading Liriano

Posted on: February 10, 2011 9:48 am
 
Francisco Liriano Because, I guess, Carlos Gomez, Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey and Deolis Guerra have worked out so well for the Twins, the team is apparently open to dealing ace Francisco Liriano, Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star Tribune writes .

Liriano, 27, is a free agent after the 2012 season and the team doesn't appear interested in signing him to a long-term deal, Christensen writes. The two sides avoid arbitration last week, but Liriano's side was looking for a three-year, $39 million contract.

Last season, Liriano was 14-10 with a 3.62 ERA in 31 starts. He struck out 201 in 191 2/3 innings. He was also second in the majors in xFIP at 3.06, behind Roy Halladay. Liriano has a history of arm injuries, including Tommy John surgery in 2006.

In 2008, the Twins had a left-handed ace they couldn't sign in the last year of his contract in Johan Santana, receiving just the aforementioned Gomez, Humber, Mulvey and Guerra in return for the left-hander from the Mets. The thought with Liriano is that they can receive more with more time left under team control.

The Twins have five other starters -- Carl Pavano, Brian Duensing, Scott Baker, Nick Blackburn and Kevin Slowey -- and their top prospect, Kyle Gibson, is a starter, so they see Liriano as replaceable and attractive to a team like the Yankees, who are looking to fill their rotation.

However, the Twins need Liriano to help compete in the AL Central and dealing him now doesn't help the team in pursuit of its first postseason series victory since 2002. None of their other five big-leaguers have the stuff Liriano does or the ability to dominate like he can.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Comments

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 8:12 pm
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

It the Twins get rid of Liriano, might as well call the next two or three years "rebuilding time."

If the Twins stay healthy they'll compete and have a chance at the division no matter what.  That being said if starting pitching is your weak spot and has cost you in the post season for years, why in God's name do you trade your ace????

I'm confused......



Since: Apr 10, 2008
Posted on: February 11, 2011 12:08 pm
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

It the Twins get rid of Liriano, might as well call the next two or three years "rebuilding time."  He is their ace, no question about it.  Pavano had an unusually good season last year and I don't expect to see him do that again.  Slowey has talent, but is more of a 2 or 3 guy in the rotation.  Blackburn and Duensing, same story, more like 3 and 4 guys though.  It would be a step in the wrong direction getting rid of this guy when they need him most.  They had a great run last year and could have very well advanced in the playoffs with some clutch hitting.  You can't win in October if your season ends in September.Still, the Twins will compete, hopefully with the Tigers and ChiSox like the AL central races of the mid-late 2000s.  



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:46 am
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

I may have to check credibility on this but I've heard that the Pohlad family is more wealthy than even the Steinbrenner family. Oh, and what was the Yankees payroll last year? Something like 150 million more than the twins. Open your checkbooks Pohlads

No. The Pohlad family can't spend as much as the Yankees, even if they are personally worth just as much as the Steinbrenner family, it can't and won't happen.  The Yankees make an incredible money from their television network, the Twins and almost every other organizatoin in MLB doesn't.  So all the Yankees do is re-invest their profits from television and buy up all the talent they can... nobody else can afford to do what they do....

The Pohlad family isn't going to use their personal wealth to finance the Twins, regardless of how much money they have.  Nobody in business does that...  every business has to support itself....

That being said, I still think they have to keep Liriano...  the guy has a ton of talent and appears to be healthy again.  He had over 200 strikeouts and a 3.60 era in the A.L last season.   The Twins don't have 5 starters better then him.... actually I don't think they have 2 or 3 starters better then him so I have no idea what they are talking about if of course this story is real...  pitching wins in MLB... almost nothing else matters.... a team can struggle hitting the ball for 2 months and stay in the race with pitching... a team that can't pitch can't compete...



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:01 am
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

xFIP? What the hell is that? Who comes up with this crap?



Since: Feb 8, 2010
Posted on: February 11, 2011 9:09 am
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

This is a typical Twins management move. As soon as a player gets good that they say they can't afford, (exception Mauer) they let them go. The same thing happened with Santana and Hunter a few years back. I may have to check credibility on this but I've heard that the Pohlad family is more wealthy than even the Steinbrenner family. Oh, and what was the Yankees payroll last year? Something like 150 million more than the twins. Open your checkbooks Pohlads. I don't know why they continue to penny pinch, they got their new stadium (with the state contributing a higher percentage of the pay than I would have liked) so they're getting plenty of revenue. I think management likes the league's perception of them as the little engine that could. Although, unless they make moves to get to that elite level, they will be the little engine that almost could.



Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: February 11, 2011 9:04 am
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

I'm sure the yankees had something to do with this article. They probably called the twins before they signed Liriano and also after to see if they could get him. Especially after the news that Pettitte wasnt coming back. They will throw a lot of money around to get what they want. Including to reporters to write up stories and get the ball rolling. Doesn't look good for the twins. Maybe they see big things from the other starters. I dont.



Since: Jul 6, 2007
Posted on: February 11, 2011 12:48 am
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

we can give you Dice-K for him.  Thats a fair trade haha



Since: Jul 6, 2007
Posted on: February 11, 2011 12:48 am
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

This guy is good.  Please dont go to the yanks



Since: Jan 11, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 10:40 pm
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

Yeah, I gotta scratch my head on that news, but I wonder how reliable is the source? And I tend to trust the Twins personnel decisions, usually doing well (not always). Maybe they know something about Liriano that we don't. Maybe the cash they would have to dole out is just too much of a risk with his arm trouble. It sure seems like Tommy John surgery can be overcome and that he appears to maybe have done so, but I think it's a full good year until that's reasonably proven. Maybe they are just fishing to see if they can make a steal. I will be surprised if they move him, and if they did, disappointed if they wouldn't replace him with a true #1.



Since: May 5, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2011 10:20 pm
 

Twins considering trading Liriano

Pavano has not been a "douche" in MN. When the Twins got him at the deadline in 09 I thought the same thing, but he has been a true number 2. Innings eater, quality starts, and good in the club house. As a Twins fan, I thought his signing was a must this off season, the Twins would not have been able to replace what he did last year, given that they had no shot at any of the big name Ace's that were free agents... Pavano is a great match in MN. I think the big lights on NY were just too much for him.

In Liriano, if the Twins trade I will be disappointed. But I do trust the Twins management.....for a Central division title, and a sweep in the playoffs....it is the Twins wayCry


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