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Wainwright seeking second opinion

Posted on: February 23, 2011 7:13 pm
Edited on: February 23, 2011 9:33 pm

Adam WainwrightCardinals ace Adam Wainwright is seeking a second opinion on his right elbow, Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak told reporters Wednesday evening.

"Ninety-nine times out of 100 a player would seek a second opinion on this," Mozeliak told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "At this point, Adam would like to seek a second opinion, so before we make any conclusions on what was found we're going to do that at this time."

Wainwright met with team doctor Dr. George Paletta in St. Louis on Wednesday afternoon and there was no change to the Cardinals' stance that it is a "significant" injury.

Wainwright's MRI and other information is being forwarded to Dr. Lewis Yocum in Los Angeles.

Still, whatever happens, it doesn't look good. Mozeliak wouldn't say Wainwright would need season-ending ulnar collateral ligament surgery (better known as Tommy John surgery), but he said everything but.

"I don't want to speculate, but obviously ligament damage, that's usually what it results in," he told the Associated Press.

Wainwright has finished in the top three of Cy Young voting in each of the last two seasons, going 20-11 with a 2.42 ERA last season, good for a runner-up finish to Roy Halladay.

Wainwright's elbow was examined after the season, but it was determined at the time he didn't need surgery. On Monday, Wainwright said he felt something wrong in his elbow. Cardinals manager Tony La Russa said he didn't feel the injury was associated with last season's injury, which kept Wainwright from finishing the season.

"It was so strange because he had a great throw his first time out," La Russa told the AP.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2011 10:52 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

I never said I would pay Pujols 40M.I said I would rather pay Pujols 40M than pay Howard 25M.

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2011 10:47 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

I think you are confusing calling Cardinals fans whiners with WINNERS!Cubs fans hate but why is it that the Cardinals compete in a much smaller market.Chicago could have four MLB teams and still be in a bigger market than the Cardinals.Sounds like you should take that trash talk to your organization and ask them why they waste money on scrubs like Soriano,Zambrano,Fukudome.

Since: Dec 6, 2008
Posted on: February 24, 2011 10:15 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

The most intelligent?  Good grief.  That statement is making you look like a fool.  Open your eyes, you poor sheep.

Since: Dec 6, 2008
Posted on: February 24, 2011 10:12 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

This is great news!!!!  The only way it could be better is if Pujols leaves or he admits be is a steroid abuser.

Since: May 2, 2010
Posted on: February 24, 2011 9:41 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

Anytime a GM comes out and STATES " IT doesnt look good" , that means it is what it is.... I just wanna know what Dr gave him a clean bill of health in NOV. saying no structural damage ?? I mean, wtf did he do between Nov and Last week to have this happen ?? Or was it misdiagnosed back then ?? if so I wonder what compensation could be recovered for that ?? There had to be something wrong w his ligament in Nov, right ???

As far as Howard going to St Louis, PUJOLS stated he would veto any trade, and I would do it for a SEASON, and allow Albert to walk,sign Milwauke Fats ( Fielder ) and Free up Salary... I certainly wouldnt give Pujols a 10 year Deal, this guy says he is 31, while looking about 35, but who knows... Pitching wins, and I for one,would like to keep Oswalt ( $16 mill Option in 2012 )  and Hamels( Hamels too is going into his 3rd year of a 3 year deal worth 24 Mill,  but still is under Phillies Control after this season) along w Halliday and Lee.... Especially if Oswalt has a year like he did in the 2nd half of 2010, he posted the lowest era of his career as a starter...I would then use the xtra Money to sign a premiere closer ( Pablebon ???) Lidge's contract is up after this year at $12.5 mill, and so is Ibanez, so maybe we could sign Albert ?? I doubt that it would ever Happen though....

Since: Jul 27, 2009
Posted on: February 24, 2011 9:34 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

K Dog, your a fool! Your GM is most def in the bottom half of the league and Tony is a whining lil girl! Worry now Cards fans. Cards fans are whiny lil girls too so I see how you would think that. After this long crappy year you get to jump right into wathcing Albert take his talents to anothe city....

Since: May 2, 2010
Posted on: February 24, 2011 9:25 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

While you state $40 million for Albert is what you would pay him, where do you draw the Line ?? You are certainly not the NYY nor the Red Sox... So if you had your druthers, Pujols/Holliday wouldbe making $57 Million a year combined ?? That is what Halladay,Lee and Utley make a season, so while no doubt Albert is the best player in MLB, $27-30 mill a year is more then enough, its noone's fault big Pujol's for signing his First Longterm Deal, now he is trying to make up for it....

The only Team I can see going after him besides the Cards is the Cubs, and the Nationals... The Cards made a mistake paying so much for Matt Holiday, at $17 Million, Pujols too believes he should be paid accordingly, well Albert, if you wish to stick by your word and be a Card for life, why not take a 7year $180-200 Mill Deal... No one is worth $250 Mill, Esp AFRAUD, but Albert should have signed a moreplayer friendly contract last go around... At this point, he should want to WIN RINGS, so thatshis fault....

Milwaukee Fats, ( Prince Fielder has reportedly turned down $100-110 Mill, which say what you like, He is not worth Ryan Howard type Money, he should sign for $100 Mill, Howard has an MVP, an NLCS MVP, a WS Ring, not to mention lost 20 lbs 2 Full Seasons ago and has kept it off, while Prince, has stated he is a Vegetarian ( Ice Cream isnt a meat product )...

Anyway Cards Fans, sorry for the RANT, but look what happened to the RANGERS after they signed A ROID !!! Yes you have deeper pockets then they had, but your owners see it as you are at your max salary w paying Albert an additional $15 Mill a season... I think that signing Pujols to a $250-$300 Mill cld possibly be the Deathknell for the Cards for years to come... Again between Holliday and Pujols, those 2 alone wld be making anywhere between $47 Mill - $52 Mill a year for 2 players....IS that what you want ?? In 5 years from Now how will you feel ??

Since: May 9, 2009
Posted on: February 24, 2011 9:22 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

For all you Cardinal fans that were bashing us Cubs fans say hello to 3rd or 4th place in the NL Central.  We'll see you with us not making the playoffs!!!!!  

Since: May 2, 2010
Posted on: February 24, 2011 9:04 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

I too am a Fan of a Different Team (Phillies),that said,my stomach churns for Cards Fans, it must be Bad Ju Ju passed down thru ownership w the Pujols contractual issues left unresolved ?? But seriously, I am sure Cards players and Fans wish to put 2010 outta their minds, only to have this happen in Spring Training.. My Fandom goes out to the CARDS Nation !!

Waino had elbow issues back in 2004, so not to justify it, but he has been great for the Cards, and they got somemileage outta this guy, and at 29 along w the Fire to compete this guy has, there is no doubt he has at least 3 more solid seasons, and the way TJ Surgery/Recovery is now adays, I dont doubt he comes back better ( if that is possible )... Although I am a huge Doc Halladay Fan,now I have to root for Waino to comeback and compete for the NL CY that has eluded him for 2 seasons now....

Cards Fans, whats Waino's contract length ??? And again, good luck guys, best wishes for a speedy and FULL RECOVERY !!!

Since: Nov 18, 2010
Posted on: February 24, 2011 8:46 am

Wainwright seeking second opinion

For the Cardinal fans (and I am as big as they get) saying we have the smartest GM in baseball, or the best in the division...ARE YOU CRAZY?  If he was even in the top half of GM's in baseball - he wouldn't have let the Pujols contract situation get to this point!

Got to agree with you stelz12,  a good GM would have renegotiated his contract at the same time they signed Holiday.  Either giving him the same contract or a few mil more per year then they offered Holiday.  Then the Cards would have made sure to have that duo paired up seven years, and would not be in theis 10 yr/30 mil mess.

On the Wainwright scene, I am a Cubs fan and this looks alot like the Mark Prior situation that helped set the Cubs pitching staff back to the bottom for several years.  Losing a true #1 pitcher like this can really hurt in the long term, these type pitchers are people you build a team around, and do not get replaced easily.  Even if he comes back next year I doubt he will be the same pitcher he was, look no further than Kerry Wood for a prime example of what you will be getting back.

Hate to see it happen to any player.  The Cubs have struggled on to try to replace Prior/Wood for years, the Cards will do the same unless they have some promising talent in the minors to fill Wainwright's shoes. 

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