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Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

Posted on: February 26, 2011 3:50 pm
Edited on: February 26, 2011 3:54 pm
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Posted by Matt Snyder

It's no secret the Yankees covet starting pitching. They only have three legitimate major league starters at this point, and it's not like A.J. Burnett and Phil Hughes are without question marks. It's going to be one of the major ongoing storylines of the season, in fact.

A potentially significant deal that might be in the works -- obviously the very preliminary stages -- is a swap with the Twins for Francisco Liriano.

Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports the Yanks are "keeping a close eye" on Liriano and, likewise, the Twins are "keeping tabs on [Yankees] prospects."

The only concern with Liriano is health, because there is no questioning his talent. In 2006, the phenom reared his head, going 12-3 with a sick 2.16 ERA and 1.00 WHIP. He struck out 144 hitters in 121 innings. But that season came to a close with him needing Tommy John surgery and he never returned to form until last season.

In 2010, we saw glimpses of the old Liriano. He was 14-10 with a 3.62 ERA and 1.26 WHIP. He struck out 201 hitters in a career-high 191 2/3 innings. His stuff was good enough to only allow 0.4 home runs per nine innings (an AL-best). He still suffered the occasional meltdown, but balanced it out with some real beauties. Plus, he's still only 27. There's plenty of tread left on those tires.

He has had shoulder soreness some early in spring training, but that kind of thing is normal for pitchers in February.

If the Yankees did deal prospects for Liriano, he'd knock Burnett down to the four spot in the rotation and form a rather formidable trio at the top with Hughes and CC Sabathia.

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Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: February 26, 2011 8:04 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

"The O's are just waiting to swoop in and steal this one out from under the Yanks.
Hardy and Harris will talk this guy into the new era in Baltimore and add a proven lefty to our young rotation.
The Yanks are in trouble this year."


I just love it when retarded Snorioles fans chime in.  Yeah, because anyone who knows jackshit about the O's or their system knows that it is pitching short and flush with postion players.  Oh wait, it is the EXACT OPPOSITE.  If they are going to make moves it would be for an impact bat mid-season....say Prince Fielder etc...




Since: Oct 22, 2008
Posted on: February 26, 2011 7:19 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

The O's are just waiting to swoop in and steal this one out from under the Yanks.
Hardy and Harris will talk this guy into the new era in Baltimore and add a proven lefty to our young rotation.
The Yanks are in trouble this year.




Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: February 26, 2011 7:10 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

This is a no-brainer for the Yankees, especially if Liriano stays healthy. Yanks have plenty of young prospects that will be ready, so they're replaceable. Liriano is a stud.



Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: February 26, 2011 7:01 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

Twins could and should absolutely bone the Yankees if a trade for this guy gets put together. Yanks are desperate, everyone knows it. Liriano is the Twins ace basically, and they are a team that sees themselves contending this year. They have no pressure to deal this guy, so they only reason they would (especially to another AL powerhouse, one who knocks them out of the postseason regularly on top of it all) is if NY blows them away with a package. I've said it on these boards before; if I'm the Twins, I ask for Montero and Gardner at the MINUMUM. Those are even two positions of strength for Minny, with Mauer at C and a consortium of Delmon Young, Denard Span, Jason Kubel and Michael Cuddyer for the OF. Plus Morneau and Thome at the revolving doors that 1B and DH have become, which is where Mauer or Montero would have to go if they were on the same team. If I'm the Twins, I don't want Joba.

As a Sox fan, I'd hate the see the Yankees acquire another front-line lefty for our lefty-heavy lineup, even though AGonz and Crawford both hit lefties fairly well. Ortiz, Drew and Ellsbury all struggle against lefties. Even though Drew and Ortiz are gone after this season, I don't want to see Liriano in New York for the next 4-5 seasons. Hold on the him Twins, or trade him in a way that is a real guy shot to the Yanks major league squad and system. Basically, ask for guys you know they won't give up and make this whole idea null and void.



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: February 26, 2011 6:40 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

Wow...looks like the Yankees are more desperate than I thought they were. If acquiring a brilliant but oft-injured pitcher was their goal in the off season then they would have signed Rich Harden. Instead, Harden resigned with Oakland. As an Oakland fan I have mixed feelings about this. Anyway, trading for Liriano would be a worse move because the Yankees would have to give up prospects. Where as getting Harden would only have cost them the league minimum or close to it. What the Yankees should do is trade AJ Burnett and Joba Chamberlain for a few mediocre starting pitchers who can actually stay healthy. With the Yankees potent offense that can score more than 6 runs a game very easily the Yankees don't need to get a dominating pitcher. 



Since: Mar 26, 2009
Posted on: February 26, 2011 6:30 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

Finally they signed a "solid" pitcher in CC - and you see how it paid off: a stud that took care of business in crunch time.
  Maybe they will quit with the pipedreams and in the future, get those horses who are strong 1-2 pitchers.


I'm pretty sure they tried that with Cliff Lee earlier this offseason and he left 'em hangin' didn't he?  Bummer huh?  Face it, players and other organizations know the Yankees history of overpaying for anything and everything.  A "horse" who is a 1-2 pitcher isn't going to just fall into their lap.  They're gonna have to continue to overpay for a potential risk like Liriano, and to get another guy like Sabathia they are going to have to totally break the bank.  It's the bed they made, now they have to sleep in it.



Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: February 26, 2011 5:54 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

"You must be smoking something really strong. Montero, Chamerlain and other prospects for a sore and damaged armed reclamation project? Maybe Cervelli and a low level prospect. Maybe!"

You're the one smoking the storng stuff. Twins have all the leverage and they know it.  They won't trade him unless they get great prospects because they don't have to.  He is under contract, they can wait til the trade deadline one teams are positioning themselves for playoff runs unless they are overwhelmed in spring training with an incredibly strong offer.

Now run along and try and find one shred of historical evidence that shows a team behaving diffrently.  I double dog dare you lol.



Since: Jul 6, 2009
Posted on: February 26, 2011 5:39 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

and yes, like KNOCKOUT says - they overpay.



Since: Jul 6, 2009
Posted on: February 26, 2011 5:37 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

   Ahhh, the Yanks seem to be drawn to these flawed stars like A.J. and Liriano - and Kevin Br0wn, and Pavano, and on and on.

Finally they signed a "solid" pitcher in CC - and you see how it paid off: a stud that took care of business in crunch time.
  Maybe they will quit with the pipedreams and in the future, get those horses who are strong 1-2 pitchers.



Since: Feb 26, 2011
Posted on: February 26, 2011 5:26 pm
 

Report: Yanks, Twins thinking Liriano swap

You must be smoking something really strong. Montero, Chamerlain and other prospects for a sore and damaged armed reclamation project? Maybe Cervelli and a low level prospect. Maybe!


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