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Ump: 'We may have erred'

Posted on: May 5, 2011 1:02 am
Edited on: May 5, 2011 1:06 am
Joe Maddon

By C. Trent Rosecrans

It's not exactly Jim Joyce costing Armando Galarraga a perfect game, but don't tell that to Rays manager Joe Maddon.

Umpire Joe West said he "may have erred" in reversing a call in the Jays' 3-2 victory over the Rays on Wednesday.

West's explanation is a little confusing, so I'll start with describing the action first.

With one out in the seventh inning and the Jays leading 3-1, the Rays had runners on first and second and Sam Fuld at bat. Fuld hit a grounder to third, where Edwin Encarnacion fielded the ball, stepped on the bag and threw to first, where Adam Lind was pulled off the bag by Encarnacion's wide throw and tried to tag Fuld. West called Fuld safe.

Toronto's Don Wakamatsu, who was the acting manager after John Farrell was ejected earlier in the game, came out to protest and West quickly called Fuld out, ending the inning.

According to a pool reporter (via the National Post), West said second-base umpire Angel Hernandez told him he clearly saw that Lind made the tag. Hernandez also told West that Fuld had reached the base first, but West ignored that part.

"All I asked Angel was did [Lind] tag him, and Angel told me, 'I thought you had [Fuld] safe for being not he bag,'" West said. "I didn't heed that warning.

"I made the judgment based on what I had at first base. So it appears that we may have erred, but we did everything [by] protocol, right by the book. I don't know what else we could have done."

Joe Maddon came out and was promptly tossed from the game.

"If there's any particular play that screams for instant replay, it's that one," Maddon told reporters after the game. "I just don't understand how you can make that call from that distance. I don't believe you can see it properly. That was my argument."

Replays showed Fuld was likely safe -- and West was initially right that Fuld was safe and Hernandez was right that Lind did get a piece of Fuld -- even if it was after Fuld hit the bag.

In the end, Maddon's right -- replay would solve these problems and the game could have been different. A couple of years ago the umpires made a concerted effort to put their egos aside and confer more often on close calls. It was a step in the right direction, but it's about time to not just take steps in the right direction, but to reach the destination of fairness. In the end, the most important thing is getting the calls right, and it doesn't matter how that's achieved.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 5:38 pm

Ump: 'We may have erred'

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 3:30 pm

Ump: 'We may have erred'

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Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: May 7, 2011 10:21 am

Ump: 'We may have erred'

Amen brother!   Amen!   Not to mention that West was an aggressor towards Maddon.  That is completely unacceptable.  If you are going to make horrible reversals, and you are the crew chief (what a joke), then stand there and take it like a man. 

Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: May 7, 2011 10:19 am

Ump: 'We may have erred'

I was watching this game.  The bad part is not the call.  West originally had the call right, then got "help" from an ump 90 feet away.   The call was then changed to the incorrect call and West was extremely aggressive to Maddon when Maddon was 100 percent in the right.  He is a complete P.O.S. (West that is) 

Since: Apr 12, 2011
Posted on: May 5, 2011 9:11 am

Ump: 'We may have erred'

The more replay, the better. SCREW the human element! I don't want my officials to blow calls. That is not good for any game. The human element needs to be limited exclusively to the players on the field as much as possible.

As far as reviewing balls and strikes, computer technology exists that can be used to make those calls accurately 100% of the time (the K-Zone technology with the cameras). Same with fair/foul and home runs (similar to tennis line calls). Any other play, you can have an ump in a press box reviewing the play. With baseball, it should take MUCH less time than football to review, since there is much less to look at in most cases.

I want my calls correct.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: May 5, 2011 9:09 am

Ump: 'We may have erred'

Who thought it was a good idea to have Joe West and Angel Hernandez on the same umpiring crew?  Two of the absolute worst umps around.

Since: Dec 10, 2007
Posted on: May 5, 2011 7:41 am

Ump: 'We may have erred'

I agree,  Already, when a HR has to be reviewed it causes a lengthy delay in the game though I think most agree that a HR is more critical.  If every close play needs to be reviewed, the games will last 6+ hours.  Next we will want to review balls and strikes, and who knows what else.  Let us all accept that there will be calls that may or may not go for our teams.  If the umpires discuss those they may have missed, and correct 99% of those, then I thnk we should be ahppy.

Since: Apr 25, 2011
Posted on: May 5, 2011 2:47 am

Ump: 'We may have erred'

Basically replay only helps if its your favorite team that gets a good call. Human errors is baseball. Do not change a thing!! Soon there wont be any umps on the feild , just computer analysis. Maybe more accurate but, well, your taking the FUN out of the game.

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