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Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

Posted on: June 10, 2011 3:16 pm
Edited on: June 10, 2011 3:29 pm
 
By Matt Snyder

We all know the story by now. Blue Jays slugger Jose Bautista went from being an also-ran -- if that -- to the best hitter in baseball with a virtual snap of the fingers. Since he did so just south of his 30th birthday and less than a decade since baseball was forever stained by the steroid era, there are some people who just can't grasp the fact that a player can sometimes just get better without using PEDs.

There are other explanations:

- He changed his swing.

- He was finally given full-time playing time and left alone.

- Once he got hot in 2010, his confidence grew. Hitting is just as much mental as it is physical after all.

- He was just a late bloomer. Sometimes it takes players a while to come into their own.

- Davey Johnson hit 43 home runs in 1973 and otherwise never more than 18 in a season. Was he on 'roids? There are more examples like that in baseball history, too.

But none of those matter to the many fans who just can't shake the cynicism. He has to be doing steroids, you'll hear: "He can't just get good like that. It's not possible." Just like it's not possible to get rich without cheating or recruit well in college hoops without paying players. Or you can't win an election without being dirty. And on and on the list goes. Obviously there are places where that stuff happens, but it's just lame to assume it happens without any evidence of it.

Friday on Jim Bowden's SiriusXM radio show, Bautista was a guest. He said that he had been tested 15 times over the past three years and every test came back negative (Bowden via Twitter). Now, I can hear the cynicism already: "How do we know that's true? He's lying. He could be using HGH anyway, because that's untestable."

You can believe that. Then you can explain why the notorious juicers in the early 2000s were herculean (Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, etc.), showing noticeable increases in size, while Bautista is six feet tall and less than 200 pounds. Same as he was as a bit player for the Pirates. And he hasn't tested positive for anything.

If Bautista ever does test positive, I'll admit I was wrong and take the abuse from the "I told you so" crowd. Until then, I'd rather be perceived as naive than a narrow-minded simpleton who refuses to give credit to a player for working hard and bettering himself.

I believe Jose Bautista is clean, and I believe the evidence is on my side.

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philsfan1
Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: June 11, 2011 9:59 am
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Since: Jun 11, 2011
Posted on: June 11, 2011 9:44 am
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

tripleight - Yes, it has been proved that Bonds used Steroids.  Where have you been?  The only thing that prosecutors couldn't prove was that he "knowingly" used steroids.  Bonds' defense team admitted that Bonds used, but defended the federal perjury trial by claiming that he believed the steroids were flax seed oil and other natural items.  As for Sosa, we know he used corked bats to increase distance on (and thus home runs).



Since: Sep 4, 2010
Posted on: June 11, 2011 5:14 am
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

As the article said there is no way of knowing if he is or isn't on HGH because MLB doesn't test for it.  THe article also indicated that since he doesn't look "herculean" then he isn't juiced up.  Lance Armstrong proves that theory wrong, doesn't it.

The players union has to stop resisting the testing for HGH if we are ever to believe certain sluggers are legitimate.  Why the players union wants to protect cheaters is unfathomable.  Until HGH is tested for, I won't believe any of the modern era home run statistics.




Since: Apr 30, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2011 3:55 am
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

maybe he's juicind maybe not. we have no way to tell either way, all I know is that were about 1/3 of the way through the season and he is sporting a .346 average. Now unless I'm mistaken juicing doesn't make your bat magically meet with the ball. I mean Ken Griffey Jr. had 4 straight seasons of 27 HRs or less until he hit 45 in 1993. Sure he was only 23 but not everyone develops at the same rate or the sama age. I think Bautista is just a late bloomer, after all it isnt unprecedented and as far as I'm concerned he is innocent until proven otherwise. Just my 2c.



Since: Sep 22, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2011 2:13 am
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

We should all remember that a lot of what is going on is guessing, and what we believe to know may simply be that.



Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: June 11, 2011 1:13 am
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

Oh and did any of you Bautista-jock-sniffers ever look at his 2007 season? In 2007, he had 532 at-bats and produced a "staggering" 15 HRs and 63 RBI. In 2010, he had 569 at-bats and produced 54 HRs and 124 RBI. He more than TRIPLED (and darn-near quadrupled) his HR percentage and almost DOUBLED his RBI output while, get this, getting 3 years older and switching to the pitching-rich AL. Seriously, do we have to spell this out for you people?

And for cryin out loud, why is Matt Snyder writing anything about sports? Snyder goes on to presume the guilt of Bonds and Sosa even though neither tested positive for anything...all while stating that fans should not presume the guilt of Bautista though he never tested positive for anything either. So Snyder are we supposed to assume they're guilty (as you do with Bonds and Sosa) or not (as you implore us to do with Bautista) ? 




Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: June 11, 2011 12:50 am
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

Where is your proof? Hell, any evidence at all?? Have you anything?


It's circumstantial evidence and that's all we need in the court of public opinion. =)


afterwards and with no proof it isnt fair.


So?

We were able to prove those other guys cheated so if Bautista did it'll come out but until then he should be considered 100% clean.


No one's ever proved that Bonds or Sosa juiced either, so should we all consider THEM to be 100% clean too?
  



Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: June 11, 2011 12:06 am
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

We were able to prove those other guys cheated so if Bautista did it'll come out but until then he should be considered 100% clean. 

Billsfan, I agree that it is not right to assume he cheated.  I also thing it is not right to assume he didn't cheat.  I also disagree with your statement in bold.  I think it is fair to say that most guys that cheated were not proven cheaters. Even Bonds was never PROVEN that he cheated, but almost everyone thinks he did.   As long as they don't have good testing, players will continue to cheat.  We can only speculate.  I may be wrong but I think most football players, basketball players and baseball players are taking HGH....but I have no proof.




Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: June 10, 2011 11:31 pm
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

Johnson13 Maybe you can fill us all in on the inside information you obviously have (or think you have) on Bautista's use of PED's. You say with a very high degree of certainty that the truth is the truth and that is that he IS using PED's. You say this as if he was just busted by a test or admitted to using or something. Where is your proof? Hell, any evidence at all?? Have you anything? That is to say, anything besides the fact that he's tremendously increased his productivity at the plate? That we all know and its been explained. A completely overhauled swing among a few other things is the cause. As mentioned before by other posters, this type of power surge isnt unprecedented. Its happened before in several different era's. The "Steroid Era" is reaching out and tainting anyone who has played within 10 or 15 years of it, on either side but more so those coming now, afterwards and with no proof it isnt fair. We were able to prove those other guys cheated so if Bautista did it'll come out but until then he should be considered 100% clean. 



Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: June 10, 2011 11:17 pm
 

Jose Bautista and simple-mindedness

Starblazer brings up a good point: why shouldn't we be cynical? It was easier to believe A-Rod and Palmeiro were clean because they had longer track records of excellence. Bautista? Get real. Dude is about as "real" as Rick Wilkins and his out-of-nowhere 30-homer season back in '93.


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