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Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

Posted on: June 22, 2011 12:09 pm
Edited on: June 22, 2011 12:18 pm
 
Alfonso SorianoBy C. Trent Rosecrans

Alfonso Soriano says fans in Chicago are tougher on their players than New York fans.

When talking to Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times about struggling White Sox slugger Adam Dunn, Soriano said fans in Chicago booing the home team is nothing new.

"It's the worst," Soriano said. "I played in New York, but the fans are worse here. But at the same time, I understand. Fans can get frustrated because they want the team to win, and they want the players to hit. At the same time, the game's not easy."

Well, I'm sure Cubs fans would say if anything, Soriano reminds them that the game's not easy, but the money may be. Soriano will make $54 million over the next three years and has underperformed in his time in Chicago. He's hitting .269/.295/.522 with 14 homers so far this season, an improvement over 2010.

Both Dunn and Soriano were signed by Chicago teams after spending time in Washington, but Soriano was also a Yankee for five years, as well as playing for the Rangers. Soriano, obviously, has never played for the Phillies.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 22, 2011 7:49 am
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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 5, 2011 3:28 pm
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

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Since: Jul 19, 2008
Posted on: June 27, 2011 11:33 am
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

Fonzie omits one important distinction. When he played for the Yanks, he was very good. If he put up those kinds of numbers in Chicago, he wouldn't be booed.



Since: Feb 20, 2011
Posted on: June 22, 2011 9:06 pm
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

You're right Bleacher, Soriano lost his speed a while ago - I admit injuries have not been kind to him.  Though I still think he had some speed in his first couple seasons with the Cubs and didn't use it as much as he could (partly for fear of injuries again).  I was fully aware of Soriano's error-prone history at 2B with the Yankees, and watched his dismayed and public reaction from afar when the Nationals moved him to the outfield.  My point was not about moving him from left field, which I agree is a good place to hide a weak defensive player.  My point was about wasted potential and attitude - Soriano's the last guy who should be calling out the fans.

I don't agree that he's just a bad fielder who puts in effort though - there are stretches when you can tell he's engaged, and then he'll have mental lapses where you wonder what the bleep he's thinking about, though those lapses have come less frequently of late.

I dunno, I guess I'm just too frustrated to give the benefit of the doubt - you look at Soriano's stats, and he had this great six-year run.  Then year 1 of his Cubs era begins, and the significant decline is in full effect.

That much being said, both Soriano and Zambrano were correct in what they said.  It's just that they were the wrong messengers for the messages delivered.




Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: June 22, 2011 6:53 pm
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

I agree with harshsaga in that Soriano has so underproduced that fans have become more than frustrated, but I would also add that someone like Konerko would never make such comments. As harshsaga notes, Konerko is a very thoughtful and analytical man who has endeared himself to Sox fans. Konerko's tenure with the White Sox can serve as a good example for someone such as Dunn, whose struggles cannot be solved with any simple adjustments or advice. Konerko did have some very rough spots throughout the years, but has managed to relax enough at the plate and overcome injuries to be a star. Dunn will be able to do the same, but he came to the Sox with such high expectations. Konerko's talents evolved incrementally over the years, as did his salary. Dunn came to the Sox with a big salary and the promise of big HR and RBI numbers. Most Sox fans are patient and supportive--had Dunn been with the Sox for a number of years, I do not think the fans would be booing him. 



Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: June 22, 2011 2:06 pm
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

Soriano evokes the same feelings for me - he's got speed and power other pro players can only dream of, yet he hasn't cracked 20 stolen bases for the Cubs, EVER.

Have you watched Soriano run in the last five years? He's lost about five steps from his days as a serious SB threat. The only way he'll steal 20 bags again is if he attempts 60.

As for him changing positions (I'm assuming you mean to 2B, much like other uneducated Cubs fans want) he's an absolute train wreck in the infield. He's best off staying in LF and being yanked in the late innings for a defensive replacement (Tony Campana?).

I see effort from Sori in playing the field, the fact of the matter is he is simply a bad defensive outfielder.




Since: Aug 9, 2008
Posted on: June 22, 2011 12:52 pm
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

Soriano said fans in Chicago booing the home team is nothing new.

100+ years of sucking, what else are they to do?



Since: Feb 20, 2011
Posted on: June 22, 2011 12:49 pm
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'worse' with boos than NY


Ugh... what is it with Chicago and high-priced under-performing former star free agents?  From Boozer to Dunn to Soriano...  If Paul Konerko made this statement, I'd wager it would be received in a slightly more positive light.  Konerko has been one of the most thoughtful and insightful players in the major leagues, AND you can tell he cares deeply about his game and improving on a yearly basis.  Some would say he thinks too much and suffers from over-analysis.  But the results and consistency over his career speak for themselves.

Soriano, on the other hand, is one of the most infuriating packages of physical ability and laissez-faire mentality this side of Vince Carter.  Like many basketball junkies, I was initially amazed at some of the feats Carter could pull off, but that amazement wore off as his lack of drive and willingness to coast on talent undercut the heights he could have achieved.  Soriano evokes the same feelings for me - he's got speed and power other pro players can only dream of, yet he hasn't cracked 20 stolen bases for the Cubs, EVER.  This after getting 40+ steals in three seasons before signing with the Cubs.  He's never reached 150 games played for the Cubs, after averaging 150+  for NY and TEX.  He's reached 30 HRs only once during his Cubs tenure, after hitting the mark 4 times in the previous six years.  And don't get me started on the abhorrent left field he 'plays' (what a waste of speed), and the hijinks that ensue whenever someone has the audacity to suggest he change positions or do something outside his comfort zone for the team.  I understand injuries are part of the game - but it never seems like Soriano has any passion or interest in improvement - seems like he got his huge contract, and he's set now.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is his Cubs tenure has been a failure - almost a catastrophic one considering the ludicrous 8-year contract he signed.  Most of that blame lies with Jim Hendry for offering the contract.  But Soriano has never realized that if he was willing to take that money, he had to take the scrutiny and expectations that go with it.  To come out with a statement like this, to bite the hands of the fans that pay exorbitant sums to watch you misplay fly balls, to not have the base courtesy to swallow the frustration and keep your mouth shut for your now-approaching $20 million salary ... I'm done with this bad excuse for a ballplayer.  Get him out of Chicago - maybe find a way to trade him to Philly so he can 'experience' another fanbase.

Meanwhile Dunn has struggled mightily, and it's been hard to watch.  I would never boo a home-town player, but I understand the frustration.  Dunn has handled the tribulations well, and I wish him the best in overcoming whatever mental hurdles he's facing.



Since: Aug 9, 2008
Posted on: June 22, 2011 12:49 pm
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

The Nationals are saying, "Adam who?"



Since: Aug 3, 2009
Posted on: June 22, 2011 12:47 pm
 

Soriano: Chicago fans 'the worst'

Adam Dunn definately deserves it. he's getting 17 mil a year and's hitting like .175 with 90 k's


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