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Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Posted on: July 18, 2011 12:57 pm
Edited on: July 18, 2011 2:39 pm
 
By Matt Snyder

As the Ubaldo Jimenez speculation fire continues to burn, we now have our next hot trade rumor: The Pirates have scouted Hunter Pence (PittsburghLive.com). Pence is hitting .321 with 11 homers, 61 RBI and an .852 OPS. He also has a great throwing arm, as we saw in the All-Star Game.

Now, just as with the Jimenez talk, let's not get carried away here. Scouting a player doesn't mean the teams have exchanged names or will ever talk about a trade. It's just the first of many steps. Still, this could make sense for both teams.

The best argument for the Astros to keep Pence is that they need to rebuild around someone and he's their obvious best player. You can say he's young, but he's 28. The Astros aren't anywhere near contention, so he could be 31 (or older) before they're ready to make a run at the NL Central again. Why not deal him and get a big prospect package back? I feel like that would make more sense, because the likes of Carlos Lee and Brett Myers aren't landing much in return at this point. Pence and Wandy Rodriguez are the ones who need to be moved in an effort to start the rebuilding process.

As for the Pirates, first of all, it's pretty cool to see them as buyers. Variety can be good and the Pirates fans have suffered for quite a while. But let's talk baseball.

There are more pressing needs than right field for the Pirates. Shortstop and third base are weak -- unless Pedro Alvarez all of a sudden is promoted and explodes -- and Lyle Overbay could be upgraded at first. A catcher upgrade would help, though there aren't really many, if any, good ones available. Some extra help in middle relief couldn't hurt either. But if the Pirates could get a star like Pence, it would enable them to move Garrett Jones to first and it does strengthen the lineup as a whole in a pretty big way. Plus, Pence still has a decent chunk of his prime left and the Pirates' cornerstones would be a duo of outfield stars with Pence and Andrew McCutchen.

So, yes, this feels like a move that could benefit both teams, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen or is in the works. Just a rumor, for now.

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Comments

Since: Feb 3, 2008
Posted on: July 18, 2011 5:16 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Ummmm...Yeah. I'm pretty sure the starters are OK under pressure. They're only the strongest, deepest part of the team.



Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: July 18, 2011 5:10 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

In an interesting change it would be cool to see the Pirates pilfer the cubs roster on their way to the Central Division.  Just about every player on the Cubs roster is available for prospects...



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: July 18, 2011 5:07 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

What about Pirates making a move for Pudge to help the pitching staff in pressure situations if they do contend down the stretch? He will not be expensive & does not need to play every day for Pittsburgh.


If they add a guy like Pence, a veteran catcher, and maybe get Jack Wilson back from Seattle this is a contender. Five deep in the rotation (if all of this is for real) and top notch back-end bullpen.



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: July 18, 2011 4:48 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Dude in case you haven't figured it out Pittsburgh Pirates are for real! Adding Pence or another big bat would greatly increase their chances.



Since: Apr 17, 2008
Posted on: July 18, 2011 4:13 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Reds under acheive and remember chapman buzz all this Spring??? not much talk about that lately huh!!! loser!!!



Since: Nov 1, 2006
Posted on: July 18, 2011 4:05 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Boy are you in for a rude awakening this week -THE REDS DO HAVE PITCHING AND WILL SHUT YOUR PIRATES DOWN COLD THIS WEEK - GO REDS!!

And you are basing this off of what? Pirates are 5-1 this season against the Reds, all in Cincinnati.




Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: July 18, 2011 4:01 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

"Pirates will be lucky to top .500"

Pirates are 5 games over .500 with just about 2/3 of the season played.  There is a pretty good chance they will finish at or above .500 and won't need much luck to do it.  This is a solid, young team.  Playoff bound?  Probably not.  No one is going to take the wild card away from the Braves (or Phillies if they falter the division) and the Pirates don't have enough to fight 2 other teams for that division.  A Pence addition could possibly put them over the edge, but with miniscule attendance and little revenue,  I can't imagine the owners wanting to add that kind of salary.



Since: Apr 11, 2010
Posted on: July 18, 2011 3:56 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Why trade for Pence when you have much more pressing needs?  Just roll with and OF of McCutchen, Tabata and Presley/Jones.



Since: Apr 11, 2010
Posted on: July 18, 2011 3:55 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Why trade for Pence when you have much more pressing needs?  Just roll with and OF of McCutchen, Tabata and Presley/Jones.



Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: July 18, 2011 3:37 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Seriously the Pirates looking to add??? What next an Indians penant.  Please people calm down, the Pirates will be lucky to top .500.  As for Pedro Alvarez he eats better than Aramis Ramierez and unless you are counting minor league stats Pedro hasn`t done anything but strike out this year. Sure Aramis is way overpaid, but that`s the stupid Cubs being who they are. The Astros and their sill Enron field are a joke and I`m glad they are paying the price now. 


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