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Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Posted on: July 27, 2011 1:06 pm
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By C. Trent Rosecrans

Pirates president Frank Connelly has released a statement about the end of Tuesday night's Pirates-Braves game:

“The Pittsburgh Pirates organization is extremely disappointed by the way its 19-inning game against the Atlanta Braves ended earlier this morning. The game of baseball and this game in particular, filled with superlative performances by players on both clubs, deserved much better. We have filed a formal complaint with the Commissioner.

“While we cannot begin to understand how Umpire Jerry Meals did not see the tag made by Michael McKenry three feet in front of home plate, we do not question the integrity of Mr. Meals. Instead, we know that Mr. Meals’ intention was to get the call right. Jerry Meals has been umpiring Major League games for 14 years and has always done so with integrity and professionalism. He got this one wrong.

“For Pirates fans, we may have lost a game in the standings as a result of a missed call but this game, and the gutsy performances by so many of our players, will make us stronger, more unified and more determined as we continue the battle for the National League Central Division.”


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Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:50 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

He did block the plate, thats why Lugo never got to the plate initially.

I think he meant block the plate with his glove instead of swiping.  Blocking with your foot doesn't matter if  you don't plant your glove into the runners body.



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:50 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

PMB19, you are an idiot.  As an umpire (high school level) with 10 years of experience, and as a current commissioner of the local Little League, I can say without a doubt that your comment is one of the most assinine I have ever heard of.  The object is to get the call right.  There is no rule of thumb.  The tag has to be made, period.  In this case (I have not seen it yet...went to bed after 16 innings) it sounds like the call was missed.  That happens.  But as an umpire you watch the play and determine if the tag was made in time or not.  The ball beating the runner there means nothing.   That is part of the play, but you make the call on the end part, not the middle. 

I don't know of any umps that would agree with you.  There is no policy.  Foolish statement.



Since: Sep 7, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:49 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

I agree completely with the post made by "the prince".  I watched most of the entire game and when I saw the throw come home I immediately assumed he would be called out.  Now that I've had the luxury of the replays - I don't know if he ever tagged Lugo or not... I'm a Braves fan and rather being elated at the end of the game I was disappointed... Like "what the hell was that call?".  A swipe tag looks cool at 2nd base on a stolen base attempt.  In this situation with the game deciding fun approaching the plate, the catcher should have had both hands on ball and stopped Lugo cold with the tag and given the umpire no choice.  It was a bizarre call.  Too often baseball accepts the "ghost tag" and the automatic 3-0 strike call.  Did anyone else notice that the 4th pitch in Proctor's previous AB was clearly ball 4?  The Strike Zone was all over the place throughout the entire game.  Hell, Uggla actually stood at home plate on a ball 4 call because he couldn't believe it wasn't called a strike.  The home plate umpire lost control of this game way before the 19th.



Since: Jan 29, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Actually he did block the plate thats why Lugo slid into him and than after he applied the tag it appears as though he is making sure no other runners advanced. 



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

No need for a swipe tag

I agree.  Umpires are really starting to crack down on those.  Why is it that players feel the need to swipe and then pose with the ball up in the air?  Put your damn glove on the ground in front of him and hold it there until the umpire makes the call.  A perfect example of a fundamentally correct tag was when Lugo tagged out a man stealing second last night.  He put the glove right in the runners chest and held it there... no doubt about whether he swiped him or not. 

For years players have been stretching the umpires benefit of the doubt on tags and "phantom swipes" of the base with their feet when turning double plays.  I'm no pro ballplayer by any means, but I was always taught that when your tagging a runner you should pretty much stop him in his tracks with your glove, not swipe your glove in his vicinity.

All of that being said, even as a Braves fan I thought Lugo was out.  It's almost like the ump compiled all of the terrible calls he made against the Braves into one big makeup call.



Since: Jun 22, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

He did block the plate, thats why Lugo never got to the plate initially.



Since: Jun 22, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

He did block the plater, thats why Lugo never got to the plate initially.



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:45 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

noone with any commen sense can say there is justification for this call..unless of course you are a BRAVES fan and have no commen sense baseball has an unwritten rule ball beats you by 4 feet you are out..the catcher tagged him period..lugo knew he was out from his reactin and didn't act otherwise til the ump decided he wanted to go home and knowingly made a bad call..for those of you who say human element is part of baseball that maybe true but this was imcompetence not human element ..tonight jerry meals will be allowed to umpire after basically giving a game away cause he was tired and be on 3B line in front pf pirates dugout and i guarantee he will eject at least 2 pirates before the game is over..and that is not right ..he is  a bad umpire and worse after making this horrific call he smirked as he walked off field ..his explanation of call was stupid and made zero sense..andas a baseball fan i am appalled that bud selig allows to continue ..and anyone who is a true fan of the game should be appalled too....



Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:44 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Block the plate and this never happens.




Since: Jan 29, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:43 pm
 

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Usually the rule of thumb is if the ball beats you to the plate of bag than your out. I think if you are not 100 % positive if the tag was made or not you got to go with an out call. It's umpire 101, and I think most umps would agree. If you don't follow that policy your bound to look foolish like Jerry Meals did last night. All that being said these things happen. It's a long season you can't dwell on 1 game or 1 blown call.


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