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Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Posted on: July 27, 2011 1:06 pm
By C. Trent Rosecrans

Pirates president Frank Connelly has released a statement about the end of Tuesday night's Pirates-Braves game:

“The Pittsburgh Pirates organization is extremely disappointed by the way its 19-inning game against the Atlanta Braves ended earlier this morning. The game of baseball and this game in particular, filled with superlative performances by players on both clubs, deserved much better. We have filed a formal complaint with the Commissioner.

“While we cannot begin to understand how Umpire Jerry Meals did not see the tag made by Michael McKenry three feet in front of home plate, we do not question the integrity of Mr. Meals. Instead, we know that Mr. Meals’ intention was to get the call right. Jerry Meals has been umpiring Major League games for 14 years and has always done so with integrity and professionalism. He got this one wrong.

“For Pirates fans, we may have lost a game in the standings as a result of a missed call but this game, and the gutsy performances by so many of our players, will make us stronger, more unified and more determined as we continue the battle for the National League Central Division.”

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Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:41 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

bronson90210 "the call was as bad as any I've ever seen second only to the botched final out in Armando Galaragga's perfect game"





You obviously did not watch the Cards vs Royals WS game (1985 maybe, or 1987?)  when Dane Iorg, on the Royals, was out by a step and a half and was called safe, which led to a rally, a win, and eventually the series.  Totally changed the outcome of the series.

As for your other analogy (18 wheeler)....this is a game where a guy does not do his job 70% of the time and makes the Hall of Fame....yet you want an umpire who probably makes 95% of the calls right (including balls and strikes) to lose his job?  That I don't understand. 

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:36 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

And here comes YoNick with the token Phillies Fan post of the day... going out of the way to put words into someone else's mouth just to have something to argue about. 
What does the fact that the Braves won 1 WS in teh 90s have to do with me arguing against the OP's assertion that the Braves have absolutely no shot of winnign the WS this year?  I pointed out that the Phillies didn't win last year to illustrate that they aren't an unbeatable team.  What does your statement illustrate?

I agree... Pirates fans should be happy that they have their first winning team in two decades.  But he wasn't praising the Pirates, he was saying that the Braves have no shot because they can't beat the Phillies.  That implies that the Phillies are the only thing standing in the way of the Braves, meaning that the Pirates aren't an obstacle.  So is he a Phillies fan or a Pirates fan?  Beats me.

And when did I say Lugo was safe? 

Since: Apr 14, 2011
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:30 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Pittsburgh fans should be morally outraged about that call.  National Football League, 2010 Week 7.  Pittsburgh Steelers at Miami Dolphins.
Pittsburgh trailing 20-19 and facing third-and-goal at the Miami 2, Roethlisberger fumbled the ball as he dived across the goal line on a quarterback draw. The play was ruled a touchdown as both teams scrambled for the loose ball in the end zone.  Replay overturns the touchdown, but does not indicate who covered the football.

Pittsburgh fans were so angry that they were not awarded the touchdown.  Pittsburgh got hosed again.

Remember Super Bowl XL when pass interference was called against Hines Ward?

How about the 1979 AFC Championship game when Mike Renfro was robbed of a touchdown thrown by Dan Pstorini??  The Pittsburgh fans were irate about that.  Pittsburgh fans are above the fray and believe in the honesty of the game.  Even when the rare bad call goes in their favor, they wish for swift justice.

Since: Jul 13, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:24 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

There will always be blown calls. The Braves have had several against them this year already, calls that might have determined the game. Unless we are willing to have instant replay in baseball, we must expect umpires to fail now and then. (his strike zone was terrible!). 

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:21 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Dear DMB1981

As a Phillies fan, I take note to your third comment.  I remember when the Braves were a Dynasty and accumulated ONE WS.

Growing up in Philly before 1980, we had little to cheer, but across the state the Pirates were "The Team".

If I was in Pittsburgh, I would in fact be happy, they have a good squad, one that's fighting for a division.  They havent' had anything to cheer about baseball wise in some time. 

As for the play last night, really?  He was safe?

Anyway, good luck as the Wild Card this year, watch Arizona.

Phitin Phils!!!

Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:19 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Yes, calls are blown all the time but if this had happened in the first inning, it would still be a big deal because it was so eggregiously terrible. I have no interest in Atlanta or Pittsburgh so speaking objectively, the call was as bad as any I've ever seen second only to the botched final out in Armando Galaragga's perfect game. If anyone has deluded themselves to the point where they still believe the call was correct (despite Lugo's reaction and Meals later ADMITTING that he blew the call), I'm afraid stronger eyeglasses simply aren't enough-- they would need an eye transplant, a brain transplant or both.

Also, arguing that humar error makes the game unique and better is something I'll never wrap my mind around. I'd love to have a job where I could f*** up this bad and get away with it. It's like driving an 18 wheeler into a building and saying, "well, I only missed my mark by 3 feet!" It's 2011 for Christ's sake... The technology exists to prevent screw ups like this from happening!

Since: Jan 29, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:16 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Concrete Charly sorry I have offended you and the umpire community. I've played baseball all my life, but I have never umped, so I guess my perspective is skewed. However, the conversation I have had with umps has been that sometimes your sheided from the action sometimes "the umpire" is in poor position and misses the call. I'm not sure why the umpire blew this call, but if you look at the call in Boston against Toronto where Encarcion was called out at the plate. He clearly slid under the tag, but was called out because the ball beat him to the plate and the umpire could not see the tag. I guess we will agree to dis agree. And I'm an idiot, I'll just sit here and eat my humble pie.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:08 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

all you need do is watch Lugo's actions and body language

In that case, all of those strike/ball calls against the Braves need to be reversed because their body language clearly indicated that the umpire made the wrong call.  And on the steal where McCann hurt himself the runner should have been out because Uggla acted like he caught the ball and tagged him.

Since when are umps supposed to base their calls off of how the player reacts?

Since: Nov 29, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:07 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

The Tigers didn't release a statement like this calling out Jim Joyce did they????

If the Pirates really want to be taken seriously they should also talk about the location of the bottom of Meals' strikezone against both teams.... 

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:05 pm

Pirates officially 'disappointed' by call

Dear Shadow_Boxer,

There are so many things to pick on in your post, I hardly know where to begin.

First, of course Braves fans are biased... that's why they're called "Braves fans".

Second, are you suggesting that the Pirates have a better chance of winning the series than the Braves?  What brings you to that conclusion?

Third, the Phillies have won one WS in recent memory, and that wasn't even the most recent year.  What makes you think they're such a shoe-in?  Sure, they're the odds-on favorite, but I kindof doubt the other teams are ready to hand them the trophy.

Fourth, how many times in the last 20 years have Pirates fans been excited about their future only to see the front office screw up what might have been a good thing? 

Fifth, I think you'll find that the Braves have some pretty promising young players if you take a little closer look (Freeman, Hanson, Kimbrell, JJ, Venters, Heyward, Tehran, O'Flaherty, etc.), so I wouldn't go counting on a Pirates dynasty just yet.

But take heart, you were right about a couple of things... your spelling did suck in your previous post (as did your grammar in this one), and the Pirates will likely be around in years to come (they won't necessarily be any good, but they will be around).

Have fun cheering for all of the players that the Braves don't want anymore.


Bias, the Braves Fan

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