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Jered Weaver to appeal 6-game suspension

Posted on: August 2, 2011 4:46 pm
Edited on: August 3, 2011 6:06 am
By Evan Brunell

WeaverThe Angels' Jered Weaver has been suspended six games for intentionally throwing at Alex Avila during Sunday's game. Manager Mike Scioscia was also suspended a game, which he will serve on Tuesday night.

Weaver, meanwhile, will appeal his suspension. He is expected to have a hearing in New York next week when the Angels are in town for a series against the Yankees.

"I obviously knew that something was going to happen," Weaver told the Associated Press. "It's six games, and it is what it is, but I've decided to appeal it. I wanted my voice heard a little bit on the situation and how it went down, see what they feel about it and go from there. So we'll see what happens."

If MLB is looking for contrition, Weaver doesn't sound like he's too interested in that. When asked by a reporter if he'd have handled anything differently, Weaver didn't give an answer that will please Joe Torre.

"I wouldn't have done anything different," he said, according to the Orange County Register.

On Sunday, Magglio Ordonez hit a home run off of Weaver in the third inning of a tight battle against the Tigers' Justin Verlander, and Ordonez paused to watch the home run, perhaps trying to determine if it would be fair or foul. Weaver shouted at Ordonez to run, which Detroit did not take too kindly. When Carlos Guillen blasted a home run in the seventh, he did everything but dance on Weaver's mound in milking the home run, which made the right-hander hot. Despite being immediately warned by the umpire, his next pitch went over Avila's head, earning an ejection.

Weaver said he wasn't trying to hit Avila, just send a message.

"[Avila] caught me in the All-Star game, and we gained a little respect for each other there. So I'm not here to hurt nobody. I just felt like I needed to prove a point," Weaver said. "I think if I wanted to hit him, I could have hit him. I just threw a fastball up and in and it got up and away. It probably looked a little worse than it was, but it was clearly about a foot or two over his head."

Avila had little to say on the matter.

"Part of the game. Suspend him? OK," Avila told the AP. "I've still got to play today."

Weaver's suspension is the same length as Cleveland's Carlos Carrasco, who was dinged for six games on Monday for throwing at the Royals' Billy Butler. A six game suspension guarantees a starter will miss a start.

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Since: Mar 26, 2011
Posted on: August 2, 2011 9:17 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

@Crusher: Absolutely he could. It's a lot easier to hit a batter than to throw a strike- even I remember that from my HS pitching days. The pitch was literally a "throw away" pitch. I would be surprised if it was meant to hit anybody. Even if it was, so what? Regarding the "well chronicled". I'll give you that it is anecdotel evidence from watching SportsCenter highlights, but I like the Tigers and their penchant for showboating has stuck with me. (I actually hope they win the Central.) You wisely quieted down regarding the Old School pitchers I see. The thing that bothers me is that Guillen's (again not so much Ordonez as I've mentioned earlier) is a form of taunting- and that went scot-free by the league. As long as the league continues to give preferential treatment to hitters in these areas, I have np with acts of retaliation- and this wasn't even good retaliation.

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: August 2, 2011 9:07 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

I think there's a difference between throwing over someone's head (or behind them), and throwing AT their head.  Weaver threw the ball exactly where he wanted.  Avila didn't react because he knew the ball wasn't going to hit him.  Leyland didn't have a problem with it for the same reason.    If Avila had to move to avoid getting hit in the head, it would be an issue.    But that pitch was never intended to hit anyone, and it had no more chance of doing so than a head high fastball on the inside corner. 

The book of unwritten rules is dubious as it is, but some players carry a copy of it in their back pocket (Matt Williams anyone?), and if you break one of the rules you're going to pay the price.    Stupid, yeah.  But I'd guess over half of current players still abide by this nonsense.

Howevuh, I can't imagine that the 'book' has a passage that condones side-stepping down to first while staring down the pitcher after a home run under any circumstances.  So, the idea that somehow what Guillen did was excusable or cool is even more laughable than this book of unwritten rules that caused this mess in the first place.

Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:55 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

 Weaver should have kept his head about this whole thing. if he did yell at Maggs then Guillen wouldn't have rubbed in it. Either way, a pitcher should never, under any circumstances, throw a ball at another players head. EVER! End of story

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:47 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

 the batters, Ordonez and Guillen, should get suspended too... for merely a game or two. 

Yeah ok stupid. Ordonez should get suspended for not running on a ball that hit the foul pole?  Yeah, that almost makes sense.

If there was a rule against what Guillen did in MLB then yeah, he would have gotten suspended as well.  But as far as I know there isn't a rule against what Guillen did, so you can't suspend him either. 

But you wanna suspend Maggs for doing nothing??  Get a life fella...

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:44 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

Weaver definitely started it by overreacting to Ordonez, who may or may not have been admiring his HR. (don't act like you know)...

Oh I do know... I know that Maggs thought it might go foul. I know for sure it was 50-50 whether it was going to be foul or not.  And I also know in over 20 years of watching MLB religiously I've seen hundreds of players that stand there unsure of whether or not they'll be running or getting another pitch.  And if you watch baseball as much as I do, you know that almost never does a player in the exact situation Maggs is in run hard or even run at all on a play like that.  

Like I said, the Guillen incident never happens if not for hot head Weaver starting his crap with Ordonez..... end of story.  It's that simple.  

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:31 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

Weaver definitely started it by overreacting to Ordonez, who may or may not have been admiring his HR. (don't act like you know)...
But the Weaver/Ordonez thing was over by the time Guillen came to bat.   He instigated everything that happened from that point forward: Avila having the ball thrown over his head, Aybar bunting on Verlander, Verlander losing his focus and ultimately losing his no-no and almost losing the game.  When you get into a tit-for-tat like Guillen decided was his duty to insert himself into, you get what you ask for.   So, yeah, Weaver is a punk.  Guillen isn't any better...  he'll get his next time.

Since: Mar 14, 2007
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:25 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

Let's get it straight.  Magg's HR was to be determined.  Once it was, Weaver told him to run.  Maybe it was a little juvenile, but that's baseball in the heat of a great game. 

Guillen, however, really did take it to a different level.  His showboating after his HR was a little over the top.  The umpire did a great job to be on top of the situation, but you knew the first pitch to Avila was going at his head.  The language Weaver used when he was tossed was freakin' hilarious.  In fact, I thought the whole incident was hilarious.  Hell, it lit a fire under the Angel's.  

On a side note, did anybody say anything about the elbow that Izturis gave Verlander?  That was freakin' hilarious too.  Verlander was like "I'll beat the hell outta you!", he mouthed somewhere along those lines.

Since: Jan 5, 2009
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:17 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

Weaver is just a punk.  He is out there on the mound ranting and raving at who knows what. Somehow, he perceives Ordonez disrespected him, which is absurd.  I watched the game, the entire game, and Ordonez was watching the ball the whole way.  No way Ordonez did anything considered "against the etiquette" of baseball. But then he start jawing at Ordonez like a spoiled little brat.  My guess is he was amped up because of his duel with Justin Verlander and pissed he gave up 2 runs so early.  He thinks he is in Verlanders league, which clearly he is not, and that made poor little Jerad mad.  I loved what Guillen did, stood up to Weaver and his rantings.  It was a great stare down, but all Weaver did was yell some more and cry.  If he was half a man, he charges Guillen and takes him down.  But no, instead, he goes after a defenseless Avila one behind the head.  Wonder if he would have done that if the AL did not have a DH.  Would love to see him at the plate and face one behind the ear.  What a squirrely little guy that Weaver.

Since: Aug 30, 2010
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:14 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

Weaver? Not a class act? He has been a headliner since being a dirtbag at LBSU and yet maintains humility amongst his teammates.... realize that you do not go about hotdogging after a homerun unless youn have a dislike for the teammate batting after you... you pay for his chin music with your insulting behavior.... the manager, Mike Scioscia, is a well-known class act, as well, and he received a suspension because he ordained the offense... anybody who knows baseball knew that pitch was coming including the batter who was well versed in playing london bridges falling down... the batters, Ordonez and Guillen, should get suspended too... for merely a game or two.

Since: Nov 18, 2006
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:13 pm

Jered Weaver suspended for six games

You've been a picther for 30 years? Pitching what? Nonsense. That is too funny. Pitcher for 30 years. Funny stuff.


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