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Phillies protest loss to Marlins

Posted on: September 4, 2011 3:53 pm
Edited on: September 4, 2011 8:54 pm
Bryan Petersen
Charlie ManuelBy C. Trent Rosecrans

The Phillies finished Sunday's 5-4 loss to the Marlins in 14 innings under protest, following an instant replay review that may have cost the Phillies two runs in the sixth inning.

The protest came after umpire Joe West (who else?) used instant replay to review fans Hunter Pence double in the top of the sixth inning. After reviewing the play, Pence was called out on fan interference. Pence's ball was hit to right field, where Florida's Bryan Petersen lept to try to catch the ball, but instead a fan in a green shirt and another in a Phillies jersey and hat, leaned over the railing to try to catch the ball. The ball bounced off the fan in green's hand, just above Petersen's glove, then bounced off the outstretched hat and into the corner in right, giving Pence a double and allowing Ryan Howard to get to third.

As soon as West reviewed the play and announced Pence was out, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel argued and was ejected. In all, the delay lasted 13 minutes, with not only Manuel arguing, but also bench coach Pete Mackanin arguing it as well. Their argument was that fan interference isn't one of the approved uses of replay.

"If they wanted to see if it was for a defense play, I didn't think you could do that," Manuel told reporters (News Journal). "My understanding is that's not the rule." 

The fan clearly interfered with the ball, so ultimately it was the correct call. ESPN's Steve Berthiaume spoke with former Major League umpire Jim McKean, who told him that once the umpires decided to review whether it was a home run, the umpires could then use their judgement to rule on fan interference (Twitter).

According to the rule, the umpire can use his "sole discretion" in determining the use of replay, though Joe West told reporters the umpires were reviewing the home run (a charge Manuel denied), but that home plate umpire Chad Fairchild believed there was fan interference on the play. The second part of the matter was that the umpires ruled Pence out -- the Phillies outfielder didn't quite agree that Petersen was definitely making the catch.

"I'm going to say it's one of the best plays of the week if he makes it," Pence said (News Journal). 

Said Petersen: "I honestly don't know what happened. I thought I was going to catch the ball." (Sun-Sentinel)

The next Phillies batter after Pence, Raul Ibanez, doubled, which would have scored both Pence and Howard. Instead, after an intentional walk to load the bases, Wilson Valdez grounded into a double play to end the inning.

The Marlins then took the lead with a run in the bottom of the sixth inning with a run off of Roy Halladay.

Since the Phillies lost the game, Joe Torre will review the appeal. If Torre agrees the umpire erred, the game would be replayed from that at-bat -- but without Manuel, who was ejected. Here's a list of protested games that were later resumed, including, of course, the Pine Tar Game. No protest game has been replayed from the point of pretest since 1986 in a game between the Cardinals and Pirates.

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Since: Nov 13, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 6:53 pm

Phillies protest loss to Marlins

It was a great call by West.  The city of Brotherly-gay deserved the lost.  I'm going to laugh when the Sillies get eliminated by the NLCS.  Just like LAST YEAR.  Remember that???  W.S. Champs S.F. Giants.

Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 6:52 pm

Phillies protest loss to Marlins


Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 6:50 pm

Phillies protest loss to Marlins

mets86 thats some bull shit.. ur a nut plain and simple.. what u discribed is what a mets home game looks like today.. u can get a ticket at nose bleed and walk down to 3rd base front row.. they will let u i know this cause my friends do it all the time and they have phillies jerseys on as well.. is our fault that the old mets fans are now new phillie fans? The eagles will always be the cities first team then the phils so i dont know what ur problem is.. are u mad that ur team is not going to the playoffs for ten years? oh i thought thats what it was

Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 6:49 pm

Phillies protest loss to Marlins

There was no way the right fielder was going to make this catch to begin with, but it had no reason to be revieved.  If they thought that it might have been a homerun, then it shoulda been up to Joe West to get his "fat ass" out to the outfield alittle quicker to see if that was the case.

I don't see the Phillies winning this protest though. And it shouldn't have even mattered, they stranded too many runners again today just like last night.  And for the life of my I don;t understand why an 0-6 Utley isn't bunting over Martinez from 2nd with no outs? Instead he flies out and they walk Howard, then Pence does what he shoulda done with the bases loaded ealier and one out which was hit a deep fly ball, not a DP.  And the Phils wooulda been up a run.

This weekend was like a 2 game swing in favor of the Braves. Had the Phils not imploded in the 8th saturday night because Charlie just HAD TO pitch Bastardo again last night and them losing today. Their lead coulda been 9 1/2.  Thank god for Mother nature and the fact that they won't even get to play a game this week against the Braves, because after the series it could easily be down to 4 1/2 games with the sloppy play the {hils have been exhibiton lately!

Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 6:39 pm

Phillies protest loss to Marlins

to the guy under me who posted that he was a moron for arguing the call.. the replay was for fan interference not for homerun verification if you bothered to read the article. also since when is fan interference and auto out ive seen guys get ground rule doubles and everything.. also this isnt the first time the ump has made a controversal call he doesnt belong in mlb he should be in little league.. horrible

Since: Jan 9, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 6:33 pm

Phillies protest loss to Marlins

I still remember the mets blowing the 7 gane lead with 13 left in 2008.. then the phillies won the world series.. 

Since: Jan 9, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 6:31 pm

Phillies protest loss to Marlins

the call on the field was a double and that play had no business being reviewed.. the game should be protested.. 

Since: Oct 26, 2006
Posted on: September 4, 2011 5:57 pm

Phillies play game under protest

Probably the quickest protest ruling in MLB history. What kind of moron protests a call made via Instant Replay? It was clear and obvious that there was interference. Phillie homers should be upset at the cretin that stuck his hat over the fence, not at the umpires for doing their job.

Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 5:43 pm

Phillies play game under protest

Sissy Phillies fans should crawl back in the hole the were in before they jumped on bandwagon in 2007. Seeing them on road games is sickening.  Fu---------------------GAzzzzzzzzzz


yyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I STILL REMEMBER METS-PHILS 2006 Like it was yesterday seeing more mets fans there than phillies fans, saw more eagles jerseys than phillies jerseys, and.............. Hearing several E A G L E S chants...........

Since: Aug 4, 2011
Posted on: September 4, 2011 5:32 pm

Phillies play game under protest

joe west is more of an idiot than selig 

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