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Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

Posted on: September 27, 2011 9:49 am
Edited on: September 27, 2011 3:24 pm

By Evan Brunell

Ozzie Guillen is expected to become the Marlins' new manager in exchange for infielder Osvaldo Martinez ( and minor-leaguer Jahn Marinez (Chicago Tribune). To that end, Guillen tweeted Tuesday afternoon that it was "Weird to be in miami in this time but very happy ready to go."

Guillen Leaves White Sox
Guillen was let out of his contract after Monday night's game, capping an end to a tumultuous career as White Sox skipper. Winning the World Series in 2005, Chicago collapsed in 2011 amid high expectations. Guillen's relationship with GM Kenny Williams was by all accounts poisonous, leading to the parting. While Guillen was technically let out of his contract and free to negotiate with any team, the club had arranged a deal with the Marlins should Florida elect to make Guillen its new skipper, which is now clear will come to pass.

It's likely that Guillen will be introduced to the media after Wednesday's season finale for the Marlins, providing a bolt of news for a team that goes into a pivotal offseason with a new stadium, a name change (Florida to Miami) and new logos and uniforms. Guillen himself posted an article Monday night about becoming the Marlins' new manager before it was taken down, the Associated Press reported.

"The post quoted Guillen as saying he was thrilled to join the Marlins and couldn't wait to get started," the AP wrote. "The post went up Monday night, then was removed a short time later and replaced by a blog that discussed Guillen's departure from the Chicago White Sox while making no mention of the Marlins."

Only last year, it was rumored that Chicago wanted left fielder Logan Morrison in exchange for Guillen when the Marlins inquired as to the skipper's availability. That was a steep price to pay and its no wonder Florida passed, but the price dropped significantly once Guillen's future in Chicago was settled. Martinez, 23, is a solid defender but struggles with the bat. He's amassed a handful of at-bats each of the last two years, totaling 71 plate appearances with a .258/.300/.348 line. In Triple-A, he hit just .245/.296/.322 in 371 PA. Martinez figures to serve as a defensive replacement off the bench for the White Sox and could replace Omar Vizquel if the ageless infielder moves on.

Marinez had a 3.57 ERA for Double-A this season, striking out 11.5 per nine innings in 58 innings while also walking 6.5. If he can tighten up his command, he has the power potential to eventually become a top setup man or closer.

It's not yet known who the minor-leaguer is and that will truly determine the value of this deal. But already, both Florida and Chicago have won. The White Sox end the constant soap opera, while the Marlins finally get their man to lead the team into what they hope is a new beginning.

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Since: Sep 20, 2011
Posted on: September 27, 2011 2:05 pm

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

Ozzie traded to marlins Lol If this wasn't so sad it would be funny ,ozzie is not a good manager with the talent he was given in chicago he should ave won alot more than he did and he will not get anywhere hat kind of talent in south florida , where no one actually gives a flying 2 shits about he marlins or panthers ... Miami is all about te dolphins an hurricane football even when they suck , oh anda little about the heat only when they are winning of course

Since: Mar 22, 2009
Posted on: September 27, 2011 1:32 pm

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

This is simply a publicity move, because of Ozzie's big mouth. Can he manage the team?  He'll have to prove it and be more proffesional and educated with his choice of  words.

Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: September 27, 2011 12:27 pm

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

Really good post by Redsfan1507. Sadly, most of the posts here are from people that obviously never saw Guillen manage, but caught the sound bites and based their opinions on them alone. Ozzie knows the game - PERIOD. He learned from guys like Jack McKeon and Bobby Cox and loves the National League style. Also, as McKeon observed, he can relate to the latin players, like Hanley Ramirez, but don't think that he doesn't relate to the other guys, too. Go to the White Sox website and read A.J. Pierzynski's comments about how he and his family loved Guillen as if he were part of their family - and this guy is not one to throw out rose bouquet's very often. Guillen needed to move on from the White Sox. His pride had been damaged and he is a very prideful guy. But, don't for a minute think that just because he is not eloquent, he is not intelligent. He will be a real boost to the Marlins, and will be missed on the South Side of Chicago.

Since: Apr 17, 2007
Posted on: September 27, 2011 12:27 pm

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

Ozzie's tenure is marked by the Championship.  That's about the only good he can claim.

Attendance was no better.
Performance was worse, despite more payroll.
He never produced an elite player...Konerko is a top 25, but not elite.
He underachieved consistently, overachieved just the once.
3 of 5 below .500 years, despite ~top 10 in payroll each year.
Continually hired the single worst hitting coach, Greg Walker, (measured by performance AND longevity) of the modern era.
Games were marked by more frustration than fun - he claimed to love Ozzieball, but rarely implented it.

All in all - good riddance.  Thanks for the title, would I select having to endure this idiot for 8 years to get one?  Think I'd take my chances elsewhere.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: September 27, 2011 11:54 am

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

Congrats are in order for the Marlins.

Regardless of how he's portrayed in the media, Ozzie Guillen knows baseball, and is one of the best at the technical skills of the NL game. He's also a straight shooter who isn't interested in too much B-S from players, something that the Marlins need. Guillen and Williams didn't jive because Williams tended to sign redundant use players that weren't going to address the holes in the roster, and Ozzie was vocal about it (Asked what he was going to do with Alex Rios, Ozzie said to "ask him (Williams), he signed all these guys". The truth hurts...

It wouldn't suprize me to see Hanley Ramirez finally become the elite player he should be, and the Marlins start pushing up in the NL East.

I'd trade Dusty Baker and a couple of his favorites for Ozzie, any day.

Since: Jul 23, 2008
Posted on: September 27, 2011 11:33 am

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

 I don't know if I would like for Guillen to manage a team that I am a fan of but he sure is interesting for baseball.  I am looking forward to seeing what he can do with Hanley Ramirez.  IMO the Marlins are a mess!  I don't know how Guillen can make them less of a mess.  Let's see!

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: September 27, 2011 11:23 am

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

It was certainly time for Ozzie to go.  But I think Kenny Williams should be in the same hot water.  Adam Dunn too.

Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: September 27, 2011 11:20 am

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

Most Stupidest?  That is pretty bad.

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: September 27, 2011 11:17 am

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

What amazes me most is that the guy still can't speak English.

Since: May 30, 2008
Posted on: September 27, 2011 11:12 am

Report: Guillen to Marlins for two players

Take Big Z with you Ozzie!

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