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Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

Posted on: October 11, 2011 2:26 pm
 
By Matt Snyder

Phillies shortstop Jimmy Rollins is about six weeks away from turning 33 years old, and he's heading to free agency. Though he didn't mention dollars, Rollins told members of the media Tuesday he has a specific contract length in mind.

"I'm looking to get five years," Rollins said (Philly.com). "If it's going to be shorter, there would have to be a fifth-year option or something like that. My option."

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Rollins won the NL MVP in 2007, but since then his combined line is .261/.325/.412, which just isn't very good. He can still run (30 steals in 2011), hit for power on occasion (16 homers in 2011) and play good defense, but Rollins is far from an elite player. Giving him a five-year deal as he plays past his prime and into his twilight years wouldn't be very advisable.

Also contained in that Philly.com story is the fact that Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro said he is going to fill the closer job via free agency. It might mean bringing back Ryan Madson, but it also might mean going after someone from outside the organization. The big-name free agent closers this offseason are Jonathan Papelbon, Heath Bell and Francisco Rodriguez.

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Since: Nov 4, 2006
Posted on: October 13, 2011 11:26 pm
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

Still think Matt Holliday who's still producing #'s should of won the MVP of '07. I for one would welcome New Blood at shortstop & wouldn't miss his Big Mouth...



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: October 13, 2011 9:47 pm
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

Calm down, guys.  Remember that what a player says he wants and what he'll eventually accept are two different things.

Once free agency starts, Jimmy will see soon enough that no club is going to give him five years, or even four.  And he may not get three except at a much lower salary than he'd like. 

So he may still be back for a year or two if he finds he has to lower his demands.  And if not, they'll probably get someone younger for less money who can give us similar numbers on the field to what Jimmy's been giving us the last couple of seasons.  He's been a big part of this team for almost a decade, and maybe it has to end.  But there's no necessity to badmouth him.

I would just rather he not wind up with the Midgets . . .



Since: May 15, 2011
Posted on: October 13, 2011 9:57 am
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

Rollins, a career Philadelphian, had better be smart enough to understand that he hasn't been taken advantage of during his 6 year $46.5 million dollar contract. He has been well-paid.  Signing a new contract and ending a 17-year career in Philadelphia, where he came up as a 21 year old in 2000, would be an old school statement.

If he is looking for a 5-year, $52 million deal, that should be acceptable. Top load it for $15 million next year and bring it down from there.  Let him retire as a Philly.

J-Roll can not expect more.  He hasn't hit over .277 since his .296 in 2007.  His .250 BA and .296 OBP in 2009 are low, amazingly low, and he followed that season with an 88 game, .243 BA, .320 OBP in 2010.

What does he expect, Jeter-like money?  His career stats of .272 BA, .329 OBP pale in comparison to Jeter's .318, .383.

Perhaps it's time for the Phillies to reload, their 5-year dynasty that has produced one World Series championship can be viewed as underachieving.  Aside from 2008's successes (11-3), they have gone 16-16 in post-season play.  That's not good enough.  Over that time Rollins has hit just .250 with a .314 OBP during the playoffs.

It may be time for a change if Rollins forces the issue. 



Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: October 13, 2011 7:43 am
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

If he is stuck on a 5 year deal at 33 and wont budge he will not play for anyone next year. No team will sign him for 5 years at 33 years old. It aint happening Jimmy!



Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: October 13, 2011 2:48 am
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

I still think 5 years can be done for Rollins, his numbers declined, but he has 3 years left of what he produced in the NLDS, even the regular season. To me it's whether the Phillies can get Reyes, outside of that his glove is about as good as anyone if not better in the NL. If the Phillies can load him front end on the 3 years  and drop off for 4th & 5th years, Rollins can be released and waived like the way the Marlins do their players and maybe Rollins contract money doesn't hurt as much. With the article, it's right, Howard's injury, Utley even declining with injuries and Polanco great glove, but his bat wasn't what we got out of Feliz beyond the 1st couple of weeks of April in 2010. It was a flash and ever since, the guy has been hurt. The infield has been a travesty for putting together that pitching staff of aces. Even there the bullpen suffered & struggled. The Phillies paid money to get these last 2 seasons, maybe it's time for this team to get old and be average ? It's the life cycle. Not a bad run for this core. Maybe too much money for a non Yankees roster, then again, the money they spent is really tied up in Howard and 4 aces & a closer too. Pence wasn't the stud that guaranteed a WS appearance even. Pence may get even better, but I still think Werth had better defense as a Phillie ?



Since: Mar 23, 2008
Posted on: October 13, 2011 12:54 am
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

Jimmy Rollins wants a 5 year deal because he feels he is "owed" for being underpaid over the last 4 years.  Based on what other players with less success than him earnerd, he is right.  He was underpaid. TOUGH BEANS JIMMY.  You signed the deal and the Phillies won that contract deal.

Yes, he is a former MVP (key word former) and helped the Phillies win in '08.  That's old news and you can't expect the Phillies to sign an OLD 33 year old player to a 5 year deal.  His numbers have declined and he is just a shell of what he was as a hitter.

Think about this, JRoll hit .261 this year...his show off year before being a free agent!! Most players over produce in a contract year yet JRoll had a poor showing.

It is time to remember this is a business and let JRoll roll over to another team.  Perhaps the Nationals would like another Phillie throw away to go with Jason Werthless.  Just don't expect a 5 year $125 million deal Jimmy.

Jimmy Rollins will sign somewhere other than Philly - it will be a 4 year 32 million deal.


 



Since: Nov 4, 2006
Posted on: October 12, 2011 11:57 pm
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

Go Take A Hike J Roll.. Your Big Mouth was backed up with crappy production, U is done man. Phillies should let you be a free agent & see what crowd lines up for your 33 going on 50 play...



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: October 12, 2011 11:10 pm
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

You must be up in the thin air.  Let's not forget that Jeter was on the DL this year and that he had to deal with the pressure of getting his 3,000th hit.  That being said I think he was in the top 8 or 9 in BA from the All-Star break on.  You can hate the Yankees all you want but you'd have trouble finding a true Yankee who didn't think The Captain came back from the DL and played the rest of the season like the future HOF'er that he is. 




Since: Sep 1, 2011
Posted on: October 12, 2011 7:03 pm
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

At this age should not be offered anything longer that 2 years.
The body just begins to break down too much



Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: October 12, 2011 6:37 pm
 

Jimmy Rollins seeking five-year deal

Much better hitter is an understatement.

Career     
;     &nbs
p;     Rollins    &nbs
p;      Jeter
OBP     &n
bsp;     &
nbsp;     
     .329     &
nbsp;     
 .383
SLG     &n
bsp;     &
nbsp;     
     .432     &
nbsp;     
  .449
Avg.     &
nbsp;     
      
;    .272 
      
;      .313

Jeter's worst OBP year was 2010 when he was on base at a clip of .342

A .342 clip for Rollins would be incredibly productive.

Jeter still has a career slugging PCT. 17 points higher than Rollins even with Rollins hitting more homers at Citizen's Bank.

Rollins was a solid shorstop for the Phillies but don't compare solid to a Hall Of Famer. There are plenty of solid players on many teams, but few are as consistant a hitter as Jeter. And even as Jeter ages, he's still doing it grracefully while putting up soild numbers. 

Sure the Yankees were cornered into giving Jeter too long and expensive a deal put in reality there isn't a Yankee fan out there who'd prefer a different shortstop come opening day, 2012. On the other hand Phillie fans are already pointing to the door for Rollins to exit from.


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