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Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

Posted on: October 14, 2011 10:42 am
Edited on: October 14, 2011 4:14 pm
 
By Matt Snyder

The big non-playoff story right now is easily the poaching of Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein by Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts. Pretty much every reporter with sources around the Cubs and Red Sox has gotten word that Epstein has accepted a five-year deal to take over the Cubs. The title has yet to be revealed because the deal isn't yet official. The delay is that Epstein still has a year left on his contract and the Red Sox are seeking compensation from the Cubs for letting him walk.

Cubs/Red Sox drama
The assistant general managers -- Randy Bush for the Cubs and Ben Cherington for the Red Sox -- are doing the negotiating and then reporting to ownership before anything would be made official.

And after one day of negotiating, reports from both Boston and Chicago indicate the two sides are pretty far apart.

The Cubs only want to send money to the Red Sox, while the Red Sox are insistent on receiving back a package of players. The two sides reportedly didn't give much ground Thursday, so it's at a stand-still right now (Chicago Tribune).

The Boston Globe notes the Red Sox have interest in some of the few attractive prospects from the Cubs system, like Brett Jackson, Matt Szczur, Alberto Cabrera, Jay Jackson and Trey McNutt. The Globe has also reported the Red Sox like major-league utility player Jeff Baker, but he alone wouldn't be enough. In that same entry, it is noted that the Red Sox would love the Cubs to take John Lackey and his gaudy contract, but that is very unlikely.

The Boston Herald says the Red Sox are looking for "something real" in return for Epstein.

So this might drag out for a little bit, but there was one tie that bound every report: There is no indication the deal has a chance to fall through. Eventually, Epstein is going to be headed to Chicago, with something going back to Boston in return. At least that's how things stand Friday, October 14. We'll see how it progresses.

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Comments

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2011 7:33 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

I wish I had the successful season the Yankees had.  I sure wish I was going to the World Series like the Yankees are...oh, did they choke too?  Just a week or so later than the Sox


What choke job did the Yankees have it was a 5 game series that went.... 5 games. Sox were 9 up on the Rays had the second best record in the Majors just 3 behind Philly at the start of Sept.... they ended up 12 games behind the Phillies and 1 game behind the Rays.. I'd say that is pretty epic. Losing that much ground that quick. It wasn't like the Rays had the best record and played .800 ball, the Sox just lost via choke job. Playoff series is different first team to 3 wins moves on that happened to be the Tigers and the Yankees weren't even supposed to be in this position with the Sox being favorites to win the division, and the Yankees could have been on the outside looking in... and nice using Terry as the scape goat... and even the GM wants out and the owner says he didn't ewan want Crawford... should be an interesting year for Boston...Undecided



Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2011 5:31 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

He obviously wants away so why try to make his leaving difficult? As another writer has already stated get something for him now because next year he'll walk for nothing!
A new broom in Boston may just be what the BoSox need to make a decent run at next years WS! Trouble is getting rid of the expensive dead wood!



Since: Oct 15, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 3:19 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

the problem you have is theo is gonna leave regardless of it being this yr or next, if he leaves this yr you can take what the cubs are offering and if you think thats not enough,...well we will sign him next yr and keep the player's, either way boston has no cards to play....if they did they would offer him a new contract since they think so much of him...oh yea, they dont thats why they allowed him to talk to the cubs to begin with....



Since: Oct 15, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 3:14 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULD TELL BOSTON THEY CAN TAKE WHAT I OFFER OR THEY CAN GET NOTHING FOR EPSTEIN NEXT YR, WE ALL KNOW HE IS GOING TO COME TO CHICAGO SO BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU CAN GET, THE CUBS CAN VERY WELL SAY THAT YOU'RE ASKING PRICE IS TOO HIGH AND WE CAN FIND SOMEONE TO SIT IN AS G.M. FOR A YR AND GET HIM NEXT YR FOR NOTHING.....I LIKE BOSTON ALMOST AS MUCH AS I LOVE MY CUBS BUT RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT BEING SMART AT ALL....GIVE THEM BAKER AND A MID-LEVEL MINOR LEAGUER OR WAIT TIL NEXT YR AND WISH YOU HAD THOSE 2 PLAYER'S WHILE WE STILL HAVE EPSTEIN...



Since: Jan 10, 2010
Posted on: October 15, 2011 2:23 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

no wonder the red sox didnt win....no team chemistry. yea the red sox had an historic choke job but that was last month, lets start talking bout some real teams for a change. theo...if i understand correctly, there is still time to prevent the worst 5 years of your life! if u know whats good for you theo, RUN FAST!



Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2011 1:06 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

I wish I had the successful season the Yankees had.  I sure wish I was going to the World Series like the Yankees are...oh, did they choke too?  Just a week or so later than the Sox



Since: Jun 9, 2009
Posted on: October 15, 2011 1:00 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

Why wouldn't they want to get some prospects back for him?  Get on ownership all you want, but they are playing this one dead on.... As a redsox fan I appreciate them going out there and trying to get as much as possible to improve the team... For the Sox to only take cash would be a joke and a disgrace...  Also if the Cubs arent willing to give up a top tier prospect to get one of the better GM's in the game well they don't deserve him in the first place and he is still more then welcome in my book to come back if so be the case.   



Since: Feb 16, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 1:00 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

to jabababa, who said...

"BTW - Cubs fans were abusive to Bartman - they should already be ashamed.  They blew it not because of that but only because they are incompetent and making yet another mistake!"

bill buckner had threats against his life from boston fans. pot, meet kettle.



Since: Nov 16, 2008
Posted on: October 15, 2011 12:54 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

Actually the Phils had the second highest payroll, Yankee fans usually don't know what they're talking about.




Since: Oct 15, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 12:27 am
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

You know its kinda sad seeing the Red Sox like this on one hand.  On the other hand, as a Yankee fan I am laughing my arse off at the comedy going on in Boston.  Does ownership realize they are quickly becoming a comedy routine?  First of all, firing Francona and then following it up by trashing him clearly demonstrates the lack of foresight and leadership by Red Sox ownership.  Then they are playing games with the Cubs over Epstein.  Its sad, sad sad.  Choke away a 2nd season with the leagues 2nd highest payroll and Red Sox nation become a group of cry babies and whiners while ownership acts like the Three Stoogies.  Sad, but sure funny to watch.


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