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Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

Posted on: October 14, 2011 10:42 am
Edited on: October 14, 2011 4:14 pm
 
By Matt Snyder

The big non-playoff story right now is easily the poaching of Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein by Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts. Pretty much every reporter with sources around the Cubs and Red Sox has gotten word that Epstein has accepted a five-year deal to take over the Cubs. The title has yet to be revealed because the deal isn't yet official. The delay is that Epstein still has a year left on his contract and the Red Sox are seeking compensation from the Cubs for letting him walk.

Cubs/Red Sox drama
The assistant general managers -- Randy Bush for the Cubs and Ben Cherington for the Red Sox -- are doing the negotiating and then reporting to ownership before anything would be made official.

And after one day of negotiating, reports from both Boston and Chicago indicate the two sides are pretty far apart.

The Cubs only want to send money to the Red Sox, while the Red Sox are insistent on receiving back a package of players. The two sides reportedly didn't give much ground Thursday, so it's at a stand-still right now (Chicago Tribune).

The Boston Globe notes the Red Sox have interest in some of the few attractive prospects from the Cubs system, like Brett Jackson, Matt Szczur, Alberto Cabrera, Jay Jackson and Trey McNutt. The Globe has also reported the Red Sox like major-league utility player Jeff Baker, but he alone wouldn't be enough. In that same entry, it is noted that the Red Sox would love the Cubs to take John Lackey and his gaudy contract, but that is very unlikely.

The Boston Herald says the Red Sox are looking for "something real" in return for Epstein.

So this might drag out for a little bit, but there was one tie that bound every report: There is no indication the deal has a chance to fall through. Eventually, Epstein is going to be headed to Chicago, with something going back to Boston in return. At least that's how things stand Friday, October 14. We'll see how it progresses.

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Comments

Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 8:27 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

SIMPLLY RETARDED!" priceless


got anything smart to add or just pointing out typos? dumb red sux and patriot fan....loser..



Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2011 8:22 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

"SIMPLLY RETARDED!" priceless
 



Since: Oct 28, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 8:19 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

What a moron! I guess owning a baseball team doesn't necessarily mean you know anything about baseball. If you don't want to sign a player, don't scratch the check. What's worse is that now Crawford know that the owner didn't want him and he's still got 6 years. If I were Crawford I'd be pissed. The owner needs to shut his trap and show what little class he has left instead of blaming everybody that walks out the door. Nothing says sinking ship like the garbage going on in Boston.



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 8:18 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

WHY ?

Theo proved he could start with a contender, spend a LOT of money, and produce a contender. He "developed" half a dozen players in an organization with twice the income of teams that produced 2 dozen players in the same amount of time. The Redsox will find Epstein easy to replace as long as the budget is there, and his replacement wil be cheaper than Theo anyway....what more compensation do they need ? 

The BoSox don't need money, or Epstein- they need a few players, and GM that can recognize one before he's a $100 million free agent. 

The Cubs, are looking to break a "curse", with the only GM that has THAT on his resume. Pathetic... A witch doctor, a voodoo priestess, a sacrificial goat, a 4 leaf clover, a rabbits foot, 3 starting pitchers, an infield that can field a grounder and a couple of power hitters that can hit over .250 would have been cheaper, and FAR more effective than Theo Epstein.

I'd offer to send Carlos Zambrano, and a Gino's East Pizza to Boston for Epstein and a gift certificate for a free smear campaign form Mr. Henry.     



Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 8:05 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

this is the difference between the yankees and red sux....if epstein was yankee gm they would be like 'bye bye!"....red sux on other hand are trying to hold him up from leaving....like he would be dedicated and committed if he doesnt want to be in boston? SIMPLLY RETARDED!



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: October 14, 2011 7:35 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

It's true that Epstein was the GM that headed up the greatest collapse in MLB history this past season, but he should only get little of the blame.  Most of the blame should go to the Red Sox players since they are ones that lost the playoff spot, Aug. 31 the had a  83-52 record and in first place by almost 2 games. Last 20 games they only won 7 times


Boston will see if they could do better or worse without Epstein, For the Cubs  Epstein will Improve the Cubs but the question will be how much better. 



Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:58 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

Kingratt, your comment has to be one of the most idiotic, uneducated, unkowledgeable, asinine statement I have seen in my 10-12 years of following cbssports.com.



Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:29 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

Epstein wants out, why bother giving the Red Sox anything.  Who needs Theo Epstein?  Epstein might have brought two World Series to Boston in the past decade but he also was the GM that headed up the greatest collapse in MLB history this past season. 



Since: Jun 26, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:16 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

Interesting points of view. One glaring flaw in your logic. If the Red Sox didn't allow Epstein to move on, and Epstein refused to honor the last year of his contract, the Red Sox would have zero obligation to pay Theo a penny. And Theo would be looking at a one year unpaid vacation from MLB. Essentially the same scenario that Bill Parcells was in when the Jets offered him their HC job. He couldn't assumre the roll until the Pats received agreed upon compensation.





The Red Sox really do hold all the cards in this deal. They see Theo as already being out the door, and they basically don't have to pay him unless he shows up on Yawkey Way for work. They've reportedly already decided on Ben C. as his replacement, and he's performing as acting GM even in this deal. The Sox can just give a take it or leave it offer to the Cubs, and wait until they cave.



Since: Jun 26, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:15 pm
 

Reports: Red Sox, Cubs far away on compensation

Interesting point of view. One glaring flaw in your logic. If the Red Sox didn't allow Epstein to move on, and Epstein refused to honor the last year of his contract, the Red Sox would have zero obligation to pay Theo a penny. And Theo would be looking at a one year unpaid vacation from MLB. Essentially the same scenario that Bill Parcells was in when the Jets offered him their HC job. He couldn't assumre the roll until the Pats received agreed upon compensation.





The Red Sox really do hold all the cards in this deal. They see Theo as already being out the door, and they basically don't have to pay him unless he shows up on Yawkey Way for work. They've reportedly already decided on Ben C. as his replacement, and he's performing as acting GM even in this deal. The Sox can just give a take it or leave it offer to the Cubs, and wait until they cave.


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