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What if ... the Cardinals let Pujols walk?

Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:43 am
 
By Matt Snyder

Let's not go crazy about the headline before realizing it's still a longshot that Cardinals superstar Albert Pujols signs elsewhere. Personally, I'd be shocked if he signed with anyone else. Most of the major markets are unable to come through with a huge bid. The Cubs might be able to, but we don't know if the new brain trust wants to take that path immediately (my guess is they don't). The Marlins are meeting with Pujols Friday, but could they afford him? It's doubtful they could come close to paying what St. Louis could. Can the allure of taking his talents to South Beach trump the loyalty, familiarity and dollars of St. Louis? Tough call, but only Pujols could answer that.

Still, let's just imagine a scenario where the Cardinals looked at the price tag internally and thought it best to outwardly appear as if they've done everything they could -- to appease the fans -- but still let Pujols walk via free agency. Obviously losing the best player in baseball would hurt the Cardinals, but I don't think it would be a death blow.

Let's check out what could be done with the money available, should Pujols sign elsewhere.

First of all, Jose Reyes could be signed to play shortstop. The leadoff spot was a bigger problem for the Cardinals than the middle of the order in 2011 (since-retired manager Tony La Russa had to use Ryan Theriot at leadoff in Game 7 of the World Series). Throw money at Reyes and the problem is solved. Plus, with Theriot, Nick Punto, Skip Schumaker and Daniel Descalso, there's plenty of infield depth to play with when Reyes serves a few stints on the DL. Jimmy Rollins could be a fall-back option. Next, Mark Buehrle could be signed. Remember, he grew up a Cardinals fan and has expressed interest in pitching for St. Louis in the past.

That means the Cardinals best lineup would be something like this:

1. Jose Reyes (or Rollins), SS
2. Allen Craig, RF
3. Matt Holliday, LF
4. Lance Berkman, 1B
5. David Freese, 3B
6. Yadier Molina, C
7. Jon Jay, CF
8. Punto/Theriot/Schumaker/Descalso, 2B

The starting rotation now includes a fully recovered Adam Wainwright, so it looks like this:

1. Adam Wainwright
2. Chris Carpenter
3. Mark Buehrle
4. Jaime Garcia
5. Kyle Lohse

Jake Westbrook, Lance Lynn and top prospect Shelby Miller are available in case of injury. And the bullpen is largely the same as it was toward the end of last season, with Jason Motte now getting a full season as closer.

I tell you what, that's a pretty damn good team. Sure, there are questions, like how are Freese and Craig going to hit over the course of a 162-game season as regulars? In moving Berkman to first and starting Craig, the bench loses a valuable bat, too. Age has to be a concern with Berkman and Carpenter. And of course, how does everyone respond without La Russa? Overall, though, there isn't much to dislike about that hypothetical team.

Considering what Pujols' salary might do to the ballclub if he's making $25 million or more eight years from now -- he'll turn 32 in January -- maybe it wouldn't be so bad for St. Louis if he did leave. It's certainly worth considering (again, internally, as to not alienate Pujols himself or any of the fans). I'd at least talk about it, and I'm guessing the front office has done so as well.

To reiterate, I don't think Pujols is going anywhere, but we're smack-dab in the time of the year that hypotheticals are the most fun.

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 12, 2011 12:53 am
 

What if ... the Cardinals let Pujols walk?

So you agree Pujols has better numbers the last 3 years,4 years and on avg on their careers,So how am I wrong???

You're wrong because Miggy has dominated Pujols overall in every key stat the last 2 seasons and Pujols is regressing, that means he's getting worse in key stats.   He's 3 years older and he's not getting better.  I know you hate the Tigers and you like to argue about everything, but it doesn't matter who's had a better career, what matter is NOW.....  This past season Miggy hit 45 points higher then Pujols and won the batting title.. his on base percentage was 80 points higher... that's extreme !!!!  And it wasn't just last season, he beat Pujols in almost every key stat the year before that as well.  That's the last 2 seasons in a row... 

And you think you know everything yet you only print what makes Miggy look better.Miggy strikes out 50 times more a year than Pujols.

Nobody cares who strikes out more.... Look at last year's on base percentage and the year before that... that's much more important. Look at Miggy versus Pujols last year with runners in scoring position, Miggy hit 75 points higher !!! ....  also much more important.

As for Defense. This is where you are WRONG.In 2008 he made 9 errors and 2009 7 errors.
Yet in 2010 13 errors and 2011 13 errors,so let me help you since you only watch Tiger games
his defense is getting worse,because he is getting FATTER.

This is where you prove you know NOTHING about baseball.  Anybody that judges a player solely on errors is flat out stupid...And anybody who calls a WORLD CLASS ATHLETE fat is no better at making an argument then a 3rd grade child....  if you watched a lot of Tiger games you watched Cabrera make a ton of great plays defensively.... huge plays.  But you didn't..... you watched nothing.






 


brian8ball
Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: November 11, 2011 11:47 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 11:21 pm
 

What if ... the Cardinals let Pujols walk?

And lets look at the last 4 years Pujols has better numbers in every offensive stat,MORE HRS,RBI'S RUNS,
SB'S,MORE WALKS AND HE STUCK OUT 231 LESS TIMES.

Do you like to argue about EVERYTHING? Even when you're wrong???  I've got some real stats for you that go back 4 years, but only a Yankee fan cares more about 3 or 4 years then last season or the season before that.  He's 3 years older so of course his overall numbers will be bigger and he played for St Louis all the way.  Not a great team some years but much better then most of the Marlin teams that Miggy played for.  But I'll amuse you... I'll ignore last season and the season before and let you go back 4 years, just for fun.

Average last 4 years.  Pujols .322 to Miggy .321, I don't count ONE percentage point.   Home runs Pujols 41, Miggy 35.  But once again, everybody knows home runs at Comerica are tough to hit.   Rbi's.  Pujols 117 rbi's, Miggy 115.  Two rbi's means nothing.   

And Pujols on base percentage, average and rbi's have been dropping every year the last 4 years.  Miggy has improved in some areas and isn't plummeting in any stats..... 

There isn't ONE gm that would take Pujols over Miggy right now.  He's getting worse, not better like Miggy is.  Stats are comparable and Miggy is 3 years younger.  

Oh, you mentioned something about Pujols being better defensively?  Since you only watch the Yankees, let me fill you in on something most real baseball fans know.   Miggy has grown by leaps and bounds defensively the last 2 years, made a lot of great plays and very few costly mistakes.

You don't know baseball.. go away idiot... and yeah, report that to CBS.

LOL 


brian8ball
Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: November 11, 2011 11:19 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:52 pm
 

What if ... the Cardinals let Pujols walk?

redwings (9:44)--I must have read too much into the fact that you appeared to be responding personally to one of his posts that was addressed to starblazer.  

Anyway, as I told him, I'm not taking sides in the dispute between the two of you.   (Of course, I do reserve the right to defend myself from any attacks that may come my way). 

I quoted others as well to get their attention so they stop talking to that guy, he's awful.

As for our dispute, I'm not asking you to take sides, but he's crazy.  Don't get me wrong, I'm no angel and I can get carried away but it's not every thread I argue with people like he does.  If you actually took the time to follow some of his posts in some threads, you'd see what I'm talking about.

 


brian8ball
Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:49 pm
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Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:44 pm
 

What if ... the Cardinals let Pujols walk?

This is really no different than deciding whether to resign Babe Ruth or not...........



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:33 pm
 

What if ... the Cardinals let Pujols walk?

redwings (9:44)--I must have read too much into the fact that you appeared to be responding personally to one of his posts that was addressed to starblazer. 

Anyway, as I told him, I'm not taking sides in the dispute between the two of you.   (Of course, I do reserve the right to defend myself from any attacks that may come my way). 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:30 pm
 

What if ... the Cardinals let Pujols walk?

Actually if you could read I told him that you and starblazer are not 1 person.
And keep it up with the insults I am not playing this game with you anymore.
I am just going to forward every insult to the ADMIN.

Cry      Seriously?   Keep forwarding ..... have fun little man.



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:16 pm
 

What if ... the Cardinals let Pujols walk?

argo,
nice nice to snitch

Beg pardon, b8b?  Don't quite follow you. . .


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