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Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

Posted on: November 11, 2011 2:19 pm
Edited on: November 11, 2011 3:44 pm
By Matt Snyder

Jonathan Papelbon is going to be changing organizations for the first time in his professional career. He has agreed in principle to sign with the Phillies for a four-year contract that approaches $50 million, pending a physical, according to Danny Knobler of The deal was first reported by Jim Salisbury of

Earlier this week, reports surfaced that the Phillies had agreed to a deal with incumbent closer Ryan Madson, but that situation fell apart, and several reports later this past week indicated the deal was never fully agreed upon and that the earlier reports jumped the gun. And when things started to fall apart, the Phillies shifted their focus to Papelbon.

Papelbon, 30, is a four-time All-Star and a much more established closer, with 219 career saves (to Madson's 52). The two pitchers are very similar in age (Papelbon is just under two months younger), but, again, Papelbon has a lot more experience as the ninth-inning guy.

Last season, Papelbon saved 31 of 34 chances with a 2.94 ERA, 0.93 WHIP and 87 strikeouts in 64 1/3 innings. A move to the NL should help a bit, though the NL East should prove to be pretty tough next season.

As for Madson, he's left looking elsewhere, as he's surely looking for a closer's job and several teams are seeking an established closer. 


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Since: Mar 13, 2011
Posted on: November 11, 2011 11:33 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

papelbons not worth $50mil

Since: Oct 18, 2007
Posted on: November 11, 2011 11:23 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

Philly fans' posts are just plain laughable.  Their team spends and spends some more, and yet it's ok and completely plausible.  Yet, in the same breath, they are STILL attacking Yankee fans because of their payroll.
Once again, the 'imaginary salary threshold' debacle.

Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 11:14 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

Blitz, I'm not sure you're wrong in your Madson/Papelbon comparison.  Still, I don't think we can be very sure about just what numbers were really going back and forth between Boras and Amaro/Proefrock regarding Madson.  It's certainly clear by now that we were being fed inaccurate leaks at some point during those negotiations by someone.

I haven't done the calculations, and I'm not sure how you came up with the $ 35 million figure.  But I don't know whether you've taken into consideration the fact that both Cliff Lee and Ryan Howard will be getting big raises for 2012 under their contracts, and I believe Carlos Ruiz gets a raise as well.  And of course Cole Hamels will undoubtedly get one in connection with arbitration.  Aren't these, together with the Papelbon contract, going to wipe out a lot of the financial flexibility?  (Unless they're willing to go over the luxury tax threshold, of course.)

Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:56 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

Wow ar you dumb.I never said that starblazer was doing anything you were the one to bring him up.
Then I guess one of us must be confused.  Isn't your rather-angry 3:53 post addressed to starblazer?  That was long before I said a word.  So who brought him up?
And who cares when PAP'S Pysical is
Well, as a Phillies phan, I do, and with good reason.  The contract apparently isn't going to be finalized unless and until he passes the physical, and if by chance he fails it we will have lost out on signing any other closer--like Madson, for instance--who happens to sign with someone else in the meantime.  Don't you remember the Denis Reyes business last year?  That dragged out a week or more, if I recall, before the deal was scuttled because of the results of the physical.  Can't have that happen this time.  So I'd want to see the physical happen as soon as possible.  Who knows, he might even have a brain tumor, God forbid.  
you seem to have alot to say today 1st you accuse redwings and star of being one guy
"Accuse"?  All I did was inquire out of curiosity, for reasons I told you (and him).  He didn't take it amiss, so why should you?
and then you go ratting to him about me.
"Ratting"?  All I did was mention that there'd been some interesting byplay on this thread; do you deny it?  Didn't mention you.  And it was all public, after all.  You'll recall that my involvement started by my simply inquiring of him--not of you--whether he and starblazer were one person; and I do have to remind you that at that point you started talking to me about his transgressions--arguably saying a lot more to me about him than I ever did to him about you.  I still take no position on your dispute with him, by the way.

Since: Feb 12, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:47 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

Just sick of Phillies fans ALWAYS having a double standard for everthing.  It is always o.k. when your team does something but you bash other teams for doing the same thing.

Look who is talking.  Can't believe you can say that with a straight face.

Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: November 11, 2011 10:18 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

Papelbon is a great move and upgrade over their closer(s) last year. The guy has a ring and has been consistent.
Considered where each player is at (Madson and Papelbon) in their career and their respective abilities, is it really an upgrade?  Not really.  Madson has finally reached his full potential, and this is coming from someone who never believed he could become a top player in the 9th inning.  Madson has been consistent in his career too, so long as he's comfortable.  Look at his numbers when he's in the role he was supposed to be in at the time (8th inning setup prior to 2011), and he's been quite remarkable.  And like Papelbon, he also has a ring and was very very vital in achieving that ring. 

Personally, I'm just not a fan of this signing.  Madson would have been cheaper (not by much, about 1.5million a year). 

Still, even with this huge signing, the Phillies 2012 payroll is still about 35mil less than it was for the 2011 season (this takes into account that Rollins stays with the team).  So all the "buying" stuff can stop.   

Since: Sep 7, 2011
Posted on: November 11, 2011 9:55 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

31 of 34 but he blew the last two in baltimore the sox needed to win,

Since: Sep 7, 2011
Posted on: November 11, 2011 9:54 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

as long as they don't need papelbon on important games he will be great , he falls apart on pressure , because he only has the one fastball pitch and id say in about 4 years he will be done unless he can develop another one

Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: November 11, 2011 9:34 pm
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Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: November 11, 2011 9:22 pm

Phillies reach agreement with Papelbon

Okay, I think I've finally got it--you feel that two posters are trolling you.  Okay, whatever.

So, back to baseball: does anyone know when Papelbon's physical will be?

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