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Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:13 am
Edited on: November 15, 2011 12:33 pm
By Evan Brunell

The Brewers need a shortstop, but it's unlikely to be Jose Reyes, who has a lucrative offer in hand from the Marlins.

"One call," Brewers GM Doug Melvin told "No numbers."

Reyes is one of the hottest names on the market and has already received a six-year, $90 million offer from the Marlins, Fox Sports reports. That's not likely to be good enough for Reyes to sign, as the shortstop is seeking a contract north of $100 million. However, Miami's offer is not all that far away from Reyes' magic number, so it's easy to envision the Marlins upping the price and getting Reyes, who is intrigued by the opportunity to play in Miami and under skipper Ozzie Guillen. The appeal of Miami has to do with the city, plus the ability to play in good weather which could help Reyes avoid hamstring problems that have plagued him so far in his career.

The Brewers also need a shortstop, but it's hard to imagine Milwaukee ponying up the money to sign Reyes. In a discussion about first baseman Prince Fielder a couple days ago, Melvin indicated it was extremely unlikely Fielder would return to the Brewers because of payroll constraints. The same constraints will keep Reyes out of Milwaukee.

But Melvin is still on the prowl for a new shortstop, having lunch with Rafael Furcal's agent on Monday and reaching out to Yuniesky Betancourt's agent, writes. While Betancourt is an awful shortstop and it was a no-brainer for Milwaukee to decline its $6 million option on Betancourt after the season, at some point, beggars can't be choosers. If Melvin can't entice Furcal or another shortstop (how about Clint Barmes?) to town, Betancourt may represent Melvin's best choice.

"I would think anybody who needs a shortstop and who is a contender has to look at [Furcal]," agent Paul Kinser told "Like I said, he brings the intangibles. The other guys haven't won the championships. ... He might miss a few games during the year, but when he's on the field, he's a difference-maker."

Melvin, for his part, admitted the Brewers won't be part of any free agency moves early on.

"We probably are going to be late in signing players," Melvin said. "I don't know if there's bargains at the start. ... Tell me an early signing that's a good deal."

While an early signing of Reyes by Miami will force the Marlins to give up a pretty penny, it would certainly change the complexion of the team and give the club an offensive dynamo that could be the missing piece for the offense. But would incumbent shortstop Hanley Ramirez move? The Miami Herald's Clark Spencer writes that Ramirez is not pleased about the possibility of changing positions -- and that Reyes and Ramirez aren't as friendly as reports make out.

That could potentially open the door for a Ramirez trade if Reyes is signed. The Marlins' payroll can only hold roughly one big-ticket signing in order to have money to flesh the rest of the team out. But a Ramirez trade could not only help supplement the big-league team, but would free up enough money for the club to chase down its other free agent targets, thought to be Albert Pujols, Ryan Madson and Mark Buehrle.

Those wondering if Reyes could end up back with the Mets? GM Sandy Alderson said his team wasn't out of the race to resign the shortstop.

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Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: November 16, 2011 12:23 am

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

Last I checked they [Phillies] didn't hit very well and were getting old . . . . .Let's face it, the Phils and Giants are pretty similar....
MidgetHawk (10:44 p.m.), last time I checked, the Phils' hitting was good enough to help the pitchers win 102 games or so in the regular season and at least make the playoffs--unlike your team, on both counts.  Otherwise, sure, I guess you could say they're "pretty similar"--setting aside a 15-game difference or so.
Yes, their hitting failed them at critical points against the Cardinals--despite outscoring the Cardinals for the series.  Yours failed you the whole season, and as a result you got knocked out by a team that got knocked out in the first round by a team that got knocked out in the next round.  At least the Phils took it down to the 9th inning of Game 5 of a best-of-five before being nosed out by the team that went  all the way.  If you'd been playing the Cards, you'd probably have gotten swept.
The Giants are a bit younger so, their window is a bit larger at this point.

What window?  You've got no window at all unless you get your hitting fixed (ours at least is probably fixable with just one or two moves), and don't fool yourself into thinking that just getting Buster Posey back is going to make enough difference--with or without a non-difference-maker like Melky Cabrera.  And good luck holding onto both Lincecum and Cain when they become free agents in a couple of years.  On the whole, I still like our "window" a little better than yours. 

The Phils will be fighting off the rest of the division, other than the Mess.
That's the one thing I probably agree with you on.  The Phils certainly do play in a much tougher division than the Midgets do.  But those teams have their problems as well.  We'll see what happens.

Since: Feb 7, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:48 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

Kash72 is right, the franchise is a fire-sale outfit, like the Oakland A's.  

Since: Mar 28, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:48 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

bad draw or not, to titles since they came into the league in 1993.   not many teams can claim two titles in last 18 years.   plus they believe they will draw more with new stadium in little havanna.

Since: Dec 22, 2010
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:56 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

Is it 1997 again.  Go blow a bunch of money om FA's, win a World Series and trade everyone away for prospects to win again six years later.  And this from one of the worst drawing franchises?

Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:51 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

 Well this guy is good I'll give you that.  My Twins were even taking a peak at him.  Why in the world would they go that hard at a SS, when they have one of the best out there in Ramirez?  If I was in charge of the Marlins that is the last place I would be looking at.  Enter the Pujols sweepstakes, get some more pitching, but SS please!  Whatever!

Since: Oct 25, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:44 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

You sure about that? Last I checked they didn't hit very well and were getting old. Howard is hurt and has a lot of holes in his swing. Utley is still pretty solid...when he's on the field. Rollins is hurt a lot, third base and left field are a black hole. Let's face it, the Phils and Giants are pretty similar...great pitching, no hitting. The Giants are a bit younger so, their window is a bit larger at this point. The Phils will be fighting off the rest of the division, other than the Mess. Lucky for you, they sell out every night and can afford to go buy players...the Yankees of the NL.

Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:41 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

I've been a Brewer fan for most of my life. Believe me when I tell you that Melvin will be as cheap as possible. Last year not withstanding. If you look at his whole record, you will begin to see that he just doesn't want to pay for talent. It takes money to get the type of players you need for a serious run. Reyes has been offered 6/90. If he wasn't injured so much, the rate would be much higher. So it's about where it should be. So Doug is going to have to pay for real talent. He's getting his, "We gave Prince a great offer", speach ready. So all the fans can write off next year.

Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:24 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

Congrats on your world series victory! All that pitching for nothing... RyanHoward = Overpaid!

Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:19 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

What I truly love most about this offer is it SHOULD give both Reyes and all the baseball scouts who were predicting a 7 year $120 Million -$140 million deal when New York Mets fans, all along, have been saying he should absolutely NOT receive more than maybe a 5 year $18 million a year deal at most.  Obviously the Florida Marlins management agree, and word has it the Florida Marlins believe they'll be over-spending for talent this off-season to try to fill their new ball park.  If Jose Reyes has any brains at all, he'll listen to what Darryl Strawberry said regarding what it was like when Straw went to play for the L.A. Dodgers.  After he left, the advertising dollars disappeared, fans disappeared, and in a few years he was out of baseball.  When he came back to baseball, he signed with the other New York team.  

Any team that pays Jose Reyes $18 million a year, outside of the New York Mets (who should only do so because Reyes IS loved as a Met, injured or otherwise) will be overpaying.  Once they realize Reyes doesn't play more than 135 games a season any more, and when he's not hitting .337, his OBP is only about .350.  His SLG will drop drastically anywhere outside of Citifield (and might even do that IN Citifield since they've moved the fences in).  There's no need for anyone to call me a bitter New York Met fan as I happily admit it, hate free agency (always have--Mets have never had a single fully successful Free Agent signing), and believe the players, especially in today's economy, are overpaid and they underappreciate the fans. 

Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:11 pm

Report: Marlins make $90 million offer to Reyes

Please Reyes take the money from the Marlins! I've had enough of reyes and his injuries over the years. A contract this big is bad for baseball and bad for the Mets. He is not worth more than 80 mil in my opinion. Players that run depend on their legs and he has had issues with them most of his career and it will only become more of an issue as he ages. Do the Mets a favor and sign with Miami....leave the big money for the big bats and pitchers.

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