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Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Posted on: November 16, 2011 10:17 am
Edited on: November 16, 2011 3:14 pm
 
Albert Pujols

By C. Trent Rosecrans

The Marlins' offer to Albert Pujols is "believed" to be for nine years, Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports reports. However, Brown doesn't have any firm numbers on the money involved, only speculating that it could be worth as much as $225 million. The Palm Beach Post reports the offer is worth less than $200 million.

If that is indeed the case, the Marlins' offer would be more than what the Cardinals have been believed to offer, a nine-year deal worth between $190- $210 million offered in spring training, and could make the bidding for the three-time MVP even more interesting.

Conventional wisdom has been that the Cardinals would win any tie in contract talks, but the Cardinals won't get any substantial "hometown discount." Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com reports the Cardinals never offered more than $200 million, and being on the right side of that line could make a huge difference.

It could also be a bit of interesting timing that this higher offer is before the Cardinals are expected to meet with Pujols' agent, Dan Lozano, this week, according to Crasnick. The Marlins would have to at least match the years the Cardinals are offering for Pujols, but it seems with offers out to Jose Reyes and Mark Buehrle, the Marlins are looking to spend beyond not just their means, but anyone's means outside the Yankees and Red Sox.

As great as Pujols is -- and make no mistake, he's one o the best players in baseball history -- he may mean more to the Cardinals than any other team, considering his stature in St. Louis and part of two World Series titles in the last decade. Pujols has never played for another organization and is an icon in baseball-mad St. Louis.

"I don't think we need to divorce ourselves from that," Mozeliak told Crasnick. "The fact is, he's an iconic player. He's been the face of this organization for a long time. To deny that or fail to recognize it, I just don't think you're looking at it through the proper set of lenses."

Those lenses could end up costing the Cardinals in the long run -- a nine-year deal means they'll be paying a 40-year-old Pujols quite a bit of money in the last year of the deal, 2020. The Cardinals, perhaps, can deal with that kind of salary for the other benefits, but can anyone else? The South Florida market is notoriously front-running and fickle, unless the new ballpark turns the Marlins into the Yankees, how much business sense does it make for Miami to tie themselves to an aging great, no matter how great?

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Comments

Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: November 16, 2011 7:43 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Pujols is as good as gone from the Cardinals. It's not every year a time MVP hit's the free agent market. He can see the writing on the wall in St. Louis , they are about one year away from re build mode. 



Since: Jun 26, 2011
Posted on: November 16, 2011 7:23 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Some of you that are calling Pujols must be very young, and never got a chance to see some of the greatest players ever. Mantle, Mays, Clemente, during my time, as well as many others before. Pulols is a great player no doubt, but not even close to the greatest. As an aging player, if it was my money, I wouldn't offer more than 5 years. With age, bat speed slows, and he is already a liability on the bases. Teams get, and have been burned time and time again by players that can't perform over the age of 35. Any team that pays him that kind of money for 10 years will regret it after 5 years. He has been one of the best players in baseball over the last several years, not saying he hasn't. But, like all great players, his numbers will start to decline around 35 or so.



Since: Jan 11, 2007
Posted on: November 16, 2011 7:18 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

the one thing that bothers me most about fans is the "he's been underpaid for so many years". Did the cardinals hold a gun to his and make him sigh a long term deal 6 years ago. At the time he had been around for 4 years they bought out arbitration years. HE SIGNED THE CONTRACT. If he believes he is underpaid its not the cardinals fault. If you go buy a car for $600 a month for 6 years, the last few years your paying wat to much for the car is that what you want the cardinals to do. It will be out of warrenty and constantly in the shop getting fixed and you'll be wishing you had something new.



Since: Jun 13, 2007
Posted on: November 16, 2011 7:06 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Albert is the greatest of all time.  While the Cardinals can never pay him what he is worth, they should pay him what he wants.  Albert is a kind decent young man who only wants what is his right so the greatest ever can finish his career in St Louis.  How can one put a monetary price on the most important person?   If the Cardinals had any sense of decency, they should put a blank contract in front of Albert and let him fill in the years and the dollars.  Then the Cardinals should add another 10% for showing Albert disrespect during these negotiations.

If I were back in St Louis I would be encouraging everyone to fire off letters to Cardinal ownership that they should take care of Albert.  I think if we could get the unemployed to bat for Albert, it would go a long way to show how the Cardianls what it is to sacrifice to maintain what is important.  I could see it now, the unemployed residents could send a telegram to the Cardinals: "Dear Mr Cardinal, Please pay Albert Pujols.  I know what it is like to be behind on my mortgage payments, to wonder if I can make the next car payment, to worry about putting enough food on my family's table and wonder about my own personal worth because I cannot find a job.  Because of my empathy for Mr Pujols, a kind decent young man, I would be willing to endure all the stress of being unemployed if you would just give a blank check to Albert." 



Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:49 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

No!   Come on Cardinals, get your stuff together!











(that's as articulate as I can be right now)




Since: Jun 18, 2011
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:46 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Pujols won't leave the Cards.  Just as simple as that.  Even if he gets offered 4 or 5 mill less than the Marlins give him a year.  He won't want to go from World Series champion to a scrub in the East. Just won't happen.  His son is also autistic and when you change an autistic kids surroundings, they go wild and don't know what to do with themselves.  Surely he wouldn't stab his son and STL in the heart!

Sorry, can't let this slide...  Albert has an adopted daughter with his wife that has Down Syndrome.  He does have a son who is not autistic.



Since: Jun 18, 2011
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:39 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

I've said before on this site and will say again...  Pay the man what he's asking for.  He's already a legend in the town.  Look at what you're paying for.  Don't forget that he's been underpaid his entire career.  Make the gesture and if he comes in worth say, $16 million instead of $20 mil, look at the $4 million as back payment on the years he's produced well above his salary level.  Pujols has a down year, which by most accounts is better than some superstars will ever consistently see, and the critics are all over him.  He'll be back.  I also love this contingent of "fans" who say we don't really know how old he is.  Maybe he's 35...  C'mon fools, he's lived in the US most of his entire life.  He grew up in New York and Kansas City.  If Albert has even just six or seven "Albert" years left, St. Louis management owes him the money he's asking for.  And I'll bet a paycheck that he gets it, and will be a Cardinal in 2020.  Look at any Pujols posting and you'll find comments about how...  "I saw Pujols in New York", or "I took my kid to see Albert when he was in Houston..."  It's clear that he's selling tickets in visiting clubs stadiums.  He'll never buy another meal in his life in St. Louis, and could retire today a Hall of Famer.  Scratch just that, he could retire today a H.O.F.'r, AND step right into the mayor's shoes.



Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:34 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Mark Grace was a great clutch hitter for the Cubs.  I am a fan of a different team so not biased...He was also an outstanding defensive first baseman. 



Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:32 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Easy remedy for that is put a clause in the contract that takes money away if they either can't pass a physical or get hurt for a period of time in the season...



Since: Nov 4, 2011
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:27 pm
 

not a cards fan but let him go

pujols is still an awesome player, but is wanting to get paid for past performance. at the end of a 9 year contract he will be 40 years old. has always had great numbers but to tie up the payroll like that doesnt make sense. the cards have a good farm system , and bring up good young players continually.


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