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Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Posted on: November 16, 2011 10:17 am
Edited on: November 16, 2011 3:14 pm
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Albert Pujols

By C. Trent Rosecrans

The Marlins' offer to Albert Pujols is "believed" to be for nine years, Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports reports. However, Brown doesn't have any firm numbers on the money involved, only speculating that it could be worth as much as $225 million. The Palm Beach Post reports the offer is worth less than $200 million.

If that is indeed the case, the Marlins' offer would be more than what the Cardinals have been believed to offer, a nine-year deal worth between $190- $210 million offered in spring training, and could make the bidding for the three-time MVP even more interesting.

Conventional wisdom has been that the Cardinals would win any tie in contract talks, but the Cardinals won't get any substantial "hometown discount." Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com reports the Cardinals never offered more than $200 million, and being on the right side of that line could make a huge difference.

It could also be a bit of interesting timing that this higher offer is before the Cardinals are expected to meet with Pujols' agent, Dan Lozano, this week, according to Crasnick. The Marlins would have to at least match the years the Cardinals are offering for Pujols, but it seems with offers out to Jose Reyes and Mark Buehrle, the Marlins are looking to spend beyond not just their means, but anyone's means outside the Yankees and Red Sox.

As great as Pujols is -- and make no mistake, he's one o the best players in baseball history -- he may mean more to the Cardinals than any other team, considering his stature in St. Louis and part of two World Series titles in the last decade. Pujols has never played for another organization and is an icon in baseball-mad St. Louis.

"I don't think we need to divorce ourselves from that," Mozeliak told Crasnick. "The fact is, he's an iconic player. He's been the face of this organization for a long time. To deny that or fail to recognize it, I just don't think you're looking at it through the proper set of lenses."

Those lenses could end up costing the Cardinals in the long run -- a nine-year deal means they'll be paying a 40-year-old Pujols quite a bit of money in the last year of the deal, 2020. The Cardinals, perhaps, can deal with that kind of salary for the other benefits, but can anyone else? The South Florida market is notoriously front-running and fickle, unless the new ballpark turns the Marlins into the Yankees, how much business sense does it make for Miami to tie themselves to an aging great, no matter how great?

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Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:57 pm
 

Report: Miami Marlins stink!

What a joke the Miami Marlins home of the fire sale & very recent lowest payroll in MLB.  This is the problem with Uncle Bud & MLB...not the rich Yanks, Red Sawx, Phillies who spend to have a winning team & maintain that team year after year.  The stinking Marlins will repeat what they`ve done in the past which is the owner pocket all profits, cut payroll and then cry about needing help like a new stadium.  Pujols isn`t taking their offer, it`s not like LeBron James opting for FL, less taxes & better weather....or is it?????????    



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:55 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

If the Marlins actually did make a 9-year/approx. $200 mil offer, Pujols is gone.

I love him, and I'd hate to lose him, but 9 years is asinine given his age and the fact that it is only a matter of time before he has a catastrophic injury.



Since: Feb 4, 2007
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:45 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Don't you consider Pujols a bit of a moneymonger as well, SomeTimeFan? I mean, he could have agreed to a deal in Spring Training for the 9 years he wants for a figure almost up to $200 mil, and yet he turned the down?!? How do you not include him in with Prince Fielder's of the world who are right now looking for a decent baseball wage?



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:42 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

He'll wind up staying a Card, it's his home, where all his charities are, he is the face of the Cards right now, not something he'll have to  for years to become again.  The One Team Man m=ight not meananythig to any one else, but I think it does to him.  He's a rare breed, like Derek and the Yanks, Bird and the Celts, Magic and the Lakers, Peyton and the Colts, Kaline and the Tigers, Orr and the Bruins, Albert and the Cards means something.  It's where he's proven himself one of the best ever, he has the individual awards and the team awards.  Let Fielder and all the rest of the money mongers chase their checkbooks, the Cards will pay him and still be able to field a team around him to win some more titles.

I think you've got it all wrong.  Sure, maybe Pujols stays in St Louis.  If the money is basically the same whether he stays or goes then yeah, he'll probably stay rather then start over somewhere else.  But where you've got it all wrong is he's not staying because of his home or his charities or any of that.  If he stays it's only because nobody in MLB stepped up and killed the Cards offer.  The Cards made about the same offer to Pujols a year ago, and its been on the table lately as well.  

Pujols tried very hard to get more somewhere else... he more then likely failed at that, thus he'll probably remain in St Louis.

But if you were right and Pujols was staying because he loves his home, his fans and his charities he would have signed the extension a year ago... but he didn't.

Why didn't he? Because money rules in sports today... there is no loyalty from anybody anywhere.... 



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:35 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

I hope He Stay with the Cardinals and retired with them



Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:27 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

He'll wind up staying a Card, it's his home, where all his charities are, he is the face of the Cards right now, not something he'll have to work at for years to become again.  The One Team Man m=ight not meananythig to any one else, but I think it does to him.  He's a rare breed, like Derek and the Yanks, Bird and the Celts, Magic and the Lakers, Peyton and the Colts, Kaline and the Tigers, Orr and the Bruins, Albert and the Cards means something.  It's where he's proven himself one of the best ever, he has the individual awards and the team awards.  Let Fielder and all the rest of the money mongers chase their checkbooks, the Cards will pay him and still be able to field a team around him to win some more titles.




Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:26 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Im a Braves fan in Miami and and can tell you that nobody cares about the Marlins. In fact, more people here hate the Marlins after it was revealed through an information revealing lawsuit, the Deadspin reports and the Real Sports episode that the Marlins have been making a tidy profit for all the yerars they claimed they were broke. They slipped a horrible deal through our idiotic mayor (who was later recalled by 90% of voters) and county commission and we the taxpayers are stuck with the debt on a stadium. This debt will last 40 years and cost upwards of 2.4 billion dollars. Meanwhile, they are laying off teachers, police officers, firefighters and closing parks and libraries. All this to appease about 5,000 fans per game. The Marlins ownership and management are a bunch of snake oil salesman and are despised down here.

That being said, I hope the Marlins sign Pujols to this awful contract, because it will bury this franchise salary wise for the next nine years. Attendance will be up for next year when the new stadium opens, but then will be back to its miserable levels in no time. So, if Albert wants to play in Miami for the extra money, so be it. But he will likely do so in front of an empty stadium. I've been to Cards games in St. Louis and those are hardcore baseball fans. We have nothing like that here and for good reason.





Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:19 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Make no mistake Pujols is a he11 of a player, BUT seriously???? Why would a team lock in 1/4 of their salary committment to one player. I sont believe Pujols won the World Series by himself (Caprenter, Molina, Holliday, Freese, LaRussa managing, etc). Again he is a great one but I think either team is foolish to lock in a guy that will give you 3-4 years before a rapid decline in years 4-10 shile committing $1/5 Billion Dollars. Yes with a B.....just stupid. I hope St.louis signs him again so they will be irrelevant in 4-5 years.



Since: Sep 29, 2011
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:16 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

With dollare amounts that high and years that long, I think it's safe to say the Rangers won't even pick up the phone.  IMO, Nolan Ryan won't pay that kind of money to anyone, even Albert Pujols.  I could see the rangers offering less years with more money per year than the above mentioned amount though....but so far it's pretty quiet in Arlington...



Since: Apr 20, 2007
Posted on: November 16, 2011 4:15 pm
 

Report: Marlins offer Pujols 9 years

Screw Pujols and Miami. What I would like to see is Rleon 25 sinking in his yacht while sipping the beverage of his liking. What an arrogant ahole.


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