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MLBPA will announce new CBA next week

Posted on: November 17, 2011 7:03 pm
Edited on: November 18, 2011 8:27 pm
By Matt Snyder

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Talk about showing the NBA (and the NFL, for that matter) how it's done. Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association have come to terms on a new collective bargaining agreement, as Danny Knobler of has confirmed a deal will be announced early next week.

Ken Rosenthal of is reporting the deal is for five years. If that's true, it will be November of 2016 when we next have this conversation. Hopefully it will be less than a month after the end of the World Series again that time around.

Details of the deal aren't all fully available just yet, but we already know about the Astros move to the American League and the strong likelihood that there will be a one-game playoff between two wild-card teams for the right to face the No. 1 seed in the LDS round. Otherwise, expect mild tweaks -- such as draft slotting or different draft compensation for losing free agents -- that won't really be noticed much by the casual fan. No, there's no talk of a salary cap or changing the designated hitter rule, two subjects that seem to be hot topics among fans but not among either MLB or the MLBPA.

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Since: Feb 12, 2010
Posted on: November 18, 2011 2:28 pm

MLBPA will announce new CBA Monday

Super sized payrolls have been no guarantee of success. Look at how a starting player in MLB's career goes. From 24-27 you either are talented, prove you can play and sign a below market value contract for the guaranteed money or move to a bench/platoon player role and do not command top dollar. By the time most great players get a crack at free agency they are in their 30's which for most players is on the downside of the career. The big spenders sign these players but get less return for their dollar than if they had brought them up through the system. Money is a definite advantage but in a non steroid era you are paying for the past not the present and future.

Since: Mar 29, 2009
Posted on: November 18, 2011 11:52 am

MLBPA will announce new CBA Monday

Your points for a cap and floor would be fine but the problem is the cheaper teams don't want to spend. I think the Yankees would have an easier time shaving 20% off their payroll to get to $150 mil, then Tampa Bay increasing their payroll by more then double to reach $75 mil. It sounds great but not likely to happen. Another reason why caps and floors will never happen is because the smaller market team's owners don't entirely mind the disparity. They sell more tickets when assembled All-Star teams come to town. It's not right for their fans, I agree, but thats just the way it is, it's all about the dollar. Lastly, location has to have a lot to do with it. The television deals the big market teams get are there because they were successful. They were successful because they spent more money. They got more money because of the deals. Catch 22. Spend more and you make more. Yankees do this better then anyone. They spend and make more then anyone. Their location and the money around New York also allows them to charge huge amounts for tickets and concessions where other teams could not get away with it. That money goes back into the team, thankfully for us Yankee fans.

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: November 18, 2011 10:55 am

MLBPA will announce new CBA Monday

What is the definition of a small market team? Is it population, demographics, money spent?
For myself, I'd define it by a combination of all those factors rolled into one.  It has something to to with population, but that's not an overriding factor.  San Francisco and Oakland effectively share the same population market and I would dare say Oakland has better access to the wealthier suburbs than San Francisco does, yet SF runs itself more like a large market club and Oakland pinches pennies and searches the seat cushions for spare change.

I think a large factor in small market vs. large market is the ballpark that's played in and the television revenues.  As some have stated, the Yankees are monsters on the market because of the ridiculous revenues that come from the YES Network.  Seriously, the Yankees could play to an empty Yankee Stadium and still turn a profit if they wanted to.  The same holds true for the Red Sox with their NESN contract.

The teams that get crushed and labeled as "small market" suffer from access to smaller population regions as well as crummy ballparks or crummy ballpark leases/arrangements.  Until Baltimore opened Camden Yards, they suffered as there were no luxury boxes and cushy parking lot deals in the neighborhood around 33rd street.  It was an old-time ballpark in a small neighborhood where you could park at a school around the corner and walk to the park.

In my eyes, the only true small market clubs are Kansas City (weak population & television deals), Oakland (crummy ballpark deal & television support), Tampa (crummy ballpark & small population draw), and San Diego (great ballpark but crummy revenue splits with city).  Every other team in the Majors either plays in a ballpark that is less than 20 years old (and leads to greater revenues for the ballclub) or are in a market that is more than large enough to make the ownership rich.  Some teams that are characterized as small markets (Pittsburgh and Florida) suffer more from cheap ownership and a lack of willingness to invest in the ballclub with a long-term perspective.

Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: November 18, 2011 10:43 am

MLBPA will announce new CBA Monday

Glad that the MLB came to agreement on a collective bargaining agreement. This just goes to show you why it's important to follow through with your education and still participate in professional sports. Now you know why the NBA has to cancel their season because of bunch of rich, spoiled and uneducated NBA players don't have enough snap to agree on a solution. I haven't heard one person say that they're upset by the NBA holdout! Maybe the players should just get a normal 9 - 5 job and move on!

Since: Mar 9, 2009
Posted on: November 18, 2011 9:35 am
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Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: November 18, 2011 9:20 am

Report: MLBPA agrees to terms on new CBA

You're never going to get teams like KC, Pitt, Seattle, or Houston (AL or NL) to spend money like the Yankees.  The Yanks make a ton of buicks, but they spend it to make their team better, and of course get nailed by fans for it.  How about teams like the Mets, Dodgers, Giants, Cubs, White Sox, Boston, Philly, they have huge revenue opportunities, and probably take advantage of it, so they should be in the same boat as the Yankees as far as payroll goes.  Granted it's getting closer.  Look at the Phillies and Red Sox the past few years, they're the ones with all the free agents, not the Yanks.  The only thing I will say about the DH is that both leagues should either have it or not, but one league doing one thing and the other not is Selig, I mean stupid.  THat should have been the first thing he should have taken care of but alas it wasn't.  Fireing him should have been the second thing Baseball should have done.

Since: Dec 7, 2008
Posted on: November 18, 2011 8:22 am

Report: MLBPA agrees to terms on new CBA

Merrien,    I agree.. who needs the nba anyway

Since: May 18, 2010
Posted on: November 18, 2011 7:31 am

Report: MLBPA agrees to terms on new CBA

I agree with Eric at least show the fans some semblance of balance with a minor cap like $150 and a reasonable floor. I would like to see 140 and 60.

Since: Jan 14, 2011
Posted on: November 18, 2011 6:49 am

Report: MLBPA agrees to terms on new CBA

Great point about the salary floor, but you can't force small market owners to spend a certain level unless revenue sharing is increased to a decent amount.

I'm all for a cap at around 150M & a floor at about 75M.  A 2-1 ratio is tons better than the farce of 6 or 7 -1 that we currently see.

Since: Jul 24, 2009
Posted on: November 18, 2011 6:30 am

Report: MLBPA agrees to terms on new CBA

To those of you who have mentioned a salary cap......remember you also have to have a salary FLOOR as well as a cap.  Punishing the Yankees for spending the money they earn every year is not going to create parity in baseball.  You also have to force the small market teams to spend more money than they are now as well as capping how much teams like the Yankees can spend.  

There's some serious 'back-door' dollars changing hands....Hard Cap, Hard Cap, Hard Cap....Otherwise you might as well have 6 or 7 teams in baseball...
Please explain who is giving out these "back door dollars" and who is recieving these dollars??? Exactly how much money are they getting and what are they doing with this money???

As for the DH, I'm not sure why some of you are so against it.  I'd much rather watch a DH hit a game winning home run than a pitcher lay down a bunt or flail wildly at a fastball right down the middle of the plate.  If it were me, the DH would be in both leagues.  

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