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Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

Posted on: November 27, 2011 6:56 pm
 
By Matt Snyder

The Detroit Tigers have "inquired" on free agent third baseman Aramis Ramirez, reports Jon Heyman of SI.com. "Inquired" could mean as little as they briefly talked to Ramirez's agent, who passed it along to Heyman in hopes to conjure up more interest from other teams that are weak at third. It's been a slow enough past few days on the rumor front, however, it can't hurt to pass this along as a discussion point -- because Ramirez to Detroit does make a lot of sense.

Free Agency
The Tigers mostly used Brandon Inge and Wilson Betemit at third base last season, so Ramirez would mark a big offensive upgrade. He hit .306 with 26 home runs, 93 RBI, 35 doubles and a .971 OPS last season for the Cubs. He's been in Chicago since being traded there in July of 2003. As a Cub, he's hit .294/.356/.531 with 239 homers and 806 RBI, playing for three division champions.

Ramirez is 33 years old and easily the best third baseman on the free agent market. In fact, he's the only free agent at that position that is a viable everyday starter.

Again, though, we don't know how serious talks can be if the report simply states the Tigers "inquired on" him.

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Comments

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 12:29 am
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

As a Twins fan, I hope the Tigers do sign him. Already breaking down and occasionally a waste of space over the last three years, his cold starts will get any fanbase to turn on him. That .216 average in April of '10 was a real barn-burner. Is this the Tigers getting YOUNGER?!



Since: Sep 1, 2007
Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:15 pm
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

Hey Philaguy.....If the Lions went out and spent a fortune on cornerbacks, do you think it would get us to the superbowl?



Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:14 pm
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

Anyone is better than Brandon Inge,hell I would roll Tom Brookens back out there!



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:33 pm
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

Dam the philly guy with his pitching comment cracked me up, now thats funny i dont care who you are lol.



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:30 pm
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

This would be a good signing if and only if its a 2 year deal with maybe a 3rd year (team option) anything more then that i think will hurt the tigers, we do have a good 3rd baseman prospect coming up in a yr or two, still young. If they do sign ramierz then they need to focus on a left fielder or second baseman that can lead off and they also need to get another starting pitcher a 3 or 4 starter because porcello and max were shaky last yr but hope at least one of them pitch better next year but we do have two good pitching prospects coming up (oliver and turner) but i would put them in the bullpen for at least one year unless they win out a rotation spot, but you cant count on them until they prove themselves so i think we need another pitcher and like they say you cant have to much pitching.




Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:23 am
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

Look where all of your great pitching got your team this year...lol



Since: Oct 7, 2009
Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:18 am
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

I agree, I'd like to see some speed. We really haven't had a good leadoff man in a while. Grandy was so-so because of his strikeouts, and Jackson is just bad with both his strikeouts and on-base percentage. We know Peralta is already a solid fielder and hitter, move him to third and get some speed with Reyes. I'd be happy to see either of them come over, but Reyes would definitely be preferred. 


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Since: Nov 28, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:59 am
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Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: November 28, 2011 3:23 am
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

What about "inquiring" about Jose Reyes and if that works, "inquiring" if Peralta would move to 3B ? Much better than Ramirez. Tigers need speed at the top of the order, not another player who is similar to what they already have.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 28, 2011 1:15 am
 

Report: Tigers 'inquired' about Aramis Ramirez

Porcello only looked good because he got run support. He's a # 5 pitcher at best. Aram will get his  from some schmuck willing to waste an owners money. He's 33 and will be 34 in june. He could gamble and signe a one year deal but he is has a down year or gets injured he loses. Anything more than two years for him is crazy

Porcello's final stats don't tell the whole story, people need to look a little deeper before they assume he's no better then a 5th starter.

Porcello started 31 games for the Tigers this year and he gave up 3 runs or less in 21 of those games.  That means 2/3's of the time he pitched very well.   In 10 of those games he gave up 2 runs or less.  And just in case you're wondering, of the good games I mentioned he went 6 innings or more in every game but two where he went 5 innings.   Look around the league at let's say number 3 or 4 starters and tell me how many give up 3 runs or less better then 67 or 68 percent of the time?  How many number  3 or 4's give up 2 or less about once in every 3 starts or 33 percent of the time?  The problem with Porcello is about 1/3 of the time he really sucks. When he's not on, he's really not on.   And don't forget the kid is just now about to turn 23 years old.....

As for Scherzer, his problem for the 2011 season was home runs because he gave up a few more then the year before.  But, a couple things to remember about Scherzer because once again, his final numbers are a little mis-leading as well.  He also gave up 3 runs or less 21 times this past season, and in 16 of those starts or about half of his overall stats he gave up 2 runs or less which is pretty damn good.  The year before in 2010 from June 1st until the end of the season the only pitcher in MLB with a better ERA was Felix Hernandez who we all know won the Cy Young award that year.  What I'm saying is Scherzer who's still only 27 years old has a great upside.  He has to chill out on the home runs, I don't know why he gave up 8 or 9 more then the prior season......

As for Ramirez, I'll take him on the Tigers over Inge or Betemit any day of the week.   Yeah, he might hit a few less home runs at comerica but don't forget about half his overall production was on the road as well.  And another thing is Comerica has a huge outfield and is great for extra base hits as well.  The guy hit over .300 against both lefties and righties and around .280 with RISP.  I'll take him any day.....  for how much money? How long should the contract be?  Who cares?   There is no hard cap in MLB so if Ilitch wants to spend the money trying to bring a world series to Detroit, I'm all for it.   


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