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Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:54 am
Edited on: November 28, 2011 4:43 pm
 


By Matt Snyder


What if players were only permitted to stay with the team that originally made them a professional? No trades, no Rule-5 Draft, no minor or major league free agency ... once you are a professional baseball player, you stay in that organization. This series shows how all 30 teams would look. We give you: Homegrown teams. To view the schedule of this feature, click here.

The Seattle Mariners have finished last place in the AL West six of the past eight seasons. Would things have been different if management had done a better job of keeping the right organizational pieces? In a word: Yes. Check this out ...

Lineup

1. Ichiro Suzuki, RF
2. Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
3. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
4. David Ortiz, DH
5. Adam Jones, CF
6. Shin-Soo Choo, LF
7. Dustin Ackley, 2B
8. Raul Ibanez, 1B
9. Jason Varitek, C

Starting Rotation

1. Felix Hernandez
2. Michael Pineda
3. Doug Fister
4. Brandon Morrow
5. Joel Pineiro

Bullpen

Closer - J.J. Putz
Set up - Rafael Soriano, Matt Thornton, Eric O'Flaherty, Brian Fuentes, Damaso Marte, George Sherrill
Long - Derek Lowe

Notable Bench Players

Adam Moore, Greg Dobbs, Bryan LaHair, Luis Valbuena, Jose Lopez, Yuniesky Betancourt, Willie Bloomquist, Michael Saunders, Carlos Peguero

What's Good?

Almost everything. The lineup is solid, the starting rotation is very good, the bullpen is great and there is some bench depth. There are superstars like King Felix and A-Rod with up-and-comers like Asdrubal Cabrera and Michael Pineda. And 2011 first-rounder Danny Hultzen (starting pitcher) will soon be added to the mix.

What's Not?

Age in some areas. A-Rod, Ortiz, Ichiro and Ibanez are all in different levels of decline, but there's no doubt they're all certainly in decline. Catcher is also a problem, as we're left deciding between a has-been (Varitek) and a possible never-will-be (Moore). Pick your poison there.

As for the lineup, I tried to figure out how to best work it. Maybe swap Jones and A-Rod spots? I'd be OK with that, considering the seasons those two had in 2011. Also, Ichiro's OBP was terrible for a leadoff man last season (.310), but wouldn't it make the back-end of the lineup too punchless if you batted Ackley leadoff? With the way I left it, the leadoff spot is weak.

Comparison to real 2011

The 2011 Mariners lost 95 games and this team above would have a shot at winning 95. You can take away from the older stars all you want, but with that pitching staff, the offense doesn't have to be great. It only has to be good, and it's easily good enough to get plenty of wins when only needing to put three or four runs on the board. Plus, as those older guys continue to decline, the likes of Jones, Ackley and Cabrera just get better. In Sunday's Homegrown Team, I said to expect to see the Cubs toward the bottom of the rankings (when we do them). This entry is the complete opposite. Expect to see the Mariners toward the top of the rankings. This is a great team. For now.

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Comments

Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:26 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

mmmm...seems like someone is missing. Maybe a left-handed power-hitting centerfielder!!!
Yeah, he's retired.



Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:23 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

I think the article is talking about players who are still playing as of last year



Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:16 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

My man Heathcliff... I played High School baseball with him..



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:13 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

Wow this team is sick. Would be an expensive team too!



Since: Mar 26, 2007
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:00 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

You can't just say if we didn't get rid of these guys this would be our team. Maybe payroll, injuries, opportunities, draft position's will all be different.




Since: Dec 3, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:52 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

mmmm...seems like someone is missing. Maybe a left-handed power-hitting centerfielder!!!



Since: Jul 21, 2007
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:34 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

Ichiro, A-Rod and David Ortiz ... yeah I follow there, but Jason Varitek? That indomitable .256 career hitter? WOW! Tremble at the thought of having to face Varitek realizing 1 in 4 times he might reach base. Crushing!!



Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:08 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

Hah! The Cleveland indians received Cabrera and Choo for Eduardo Perez and Ben Broussard. 



Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:03 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

I don't want to check the numbers, but the salary of such a team might be the highest in baseball.

In 2006 the Mariners traded Shin-Soo Choo to Cleveland for Ben Broussard. How did that deal work out?




Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2011 3:32 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Seattle Mariners

Yeah, Big Papi was traded to the Twins for Dave Hollins. The Twins then cut him and the Red Sox picked him up on the cheap.

Varitek and Lowe were sent to Boston for Heathcliff Slocumb in one of the more famous trade deadline fleecings -- back in '97.


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