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Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

Posted on: December 9, 2011 9:19 am
 


By C. Trent Rosecrans


What if players were only permitted to stay with the team that originally made them a professional? No trades, no Rule-5 Draft, no minor or major league free agency ... once you are a professional baseball player, you stay in that organization. This series shows how all 30 teams would look. We give you: Homegrown teams. To view the schedule/past entries of this feature, click here.

The Phillies recently doled out $50 million to Jonathan Papelbon and last year gave Cliff Lee $120 million -- make no mistake, the Phillies are a large-market club using its money to lure top free agents. They've also sent prospects to get Roy Halladay in recent years, so there's been enough talent in the system to lure other teams into making big trades. This team knows what it wants and goes and get it -- by any means necessary. In this exercise, that's not possible. The Phillies, in this hypothetical, aren't the prohibitive favorite they were for the majority of 2011, but they're hardly the Cubs.

Lineup

1. Michael Bourn, CF
2. Jimmy Rollins, SS
3. Chase Utley, 2B
4. Ryan Howard, 1B
5. Scott Rolen, 3B
6. Marlon Byrd, LF
7. Domonic Brown, RF
8. Carlos Ruiz, C

Starting Rotation

1. Cole Hamels
2. Gavin Floyd
3. Vance Worley
4. Randy Wolf
5. Brett Myers

Bullpen

Closer - Ryan Madson
Set up - Antonio Bastardo, Alfredo Simon, Brad Ziegler, Michael Stutes, Kyle Kendrick
Long - J.A. Happ

Notable Bench Players

Nick Punto can play a ton of positions, but, well... There's also Pat Burrell and Jason Jaramillo, which may not be deepest bench.

What's Good?

The lineup -- when healthy -- is still pretty darn good. The rotation, while not exactly the historic rotation that the Phillies rolled out in 2011, is nothing to sneeze at and the bullpen is deep and talented. There's a bit to like here in all aspects of the game.

What's Not?

The health question, and age, are huge here. Utley, while still a very good player when he's on the field, he's had a multitude of injuries. Rolen played in just 65 games last season (for the Reds). Brown has yet to establish himself as an everyday player, but he is talented. And then there's the bench, which has Punto to play every position, but not much else. 

Comparison to real 2011

This team may be in the wild card race, but there's no way it finishes 102-60.  That said, there's a chance it could compete for the NL East title (even though I do love the Braves chances in this exercise). The starting pitching isn't as good, but the bullpen has enough arms to keep things close. There's also so depth that's not listed on this roster in guys like Kyle Drabek, Carlos Carrasco and Josh Outman that aren't going to wow you, but certainly help depth-wise and could play a role as a spot starter or in the bullpen in the course of a long season. The Phillies may buy some players, but they've also developed enough to stay competitive.

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Comments

Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2011 3:21 am
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

Anthony Gose?  Who said Gose?  A lifetime 258 hitter in the minors, never played above AA, and you want to count him?  Michael Taylor has played aobut 20 games in the majors and has batted 211.  At least give me Lou Marson and Jason Donald before you give me those clowns.
Gose is only 21 years old, he needs to be a better hitter. But, he is good center fielder and stole 70 bases last year in AA in 137 games.253 avg. 16 HR 59 RBI.Speed , defense and power.. He's moving up to AAA this year, that will tell the tale. Taylor I don't have much an argument for, but even with him... I wouldn't give up on him after 20 games and being only 25 years old.



Since: Jul 26, 2011
Posted on: December 9, 2011 9:23 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

Randy Wolf and Brett Meyers...wow there are two pitchers who won't see anything related to Cy Young.  Hey Philly, Wilson just got away to the Angels.  Kyle Drabek and Carlos Carrasco...Cy Young has an unlisted phone number for you guys.  Why not spend the money on Pujols Philly, move Rolen down and put Utley at 5 then Pujols could have been before or after Howard.  That's right Pujols is gone too.  So you aren't the pretend Yankees West anymore, the Angels are.  Information update:  St. Louis ain't that bad without Pujols and Philly you are one good 20 game winner from being in this thing or a Prince...



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2011 9:13 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

Does it really matter who got who? Not like the team's getting rings for winning the Homegrown Championship, this is just for fun and to kill time until the season, lighten up peeps.



Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: December 9, 2011 8:27 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

phillies drafted punto in 1998..

astros signed abreau originally

mariners originally signed dobbs

geoff geary hasn't played in the big leagues since 2009

jason michaels hit .199/.256/.295 with the astros last year and lou marson hit .218 



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 4:40 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

Anthony Gose?  Who said Gose?  A lifetime 258 hitter in the minors, never played above AA, and you want to count him?  Michael Taylor has played aobut 20 games in the majors and has batted 211.  At least give me Lou Marson and Jason Donald before you give me those clowns.



Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 4:34 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

Nick Punto was part of the Curt Schilling trade, not home grown. Pat Burrell even though recently "retired" needs a spot. Bobby Abreu and Jason Michaels are serious oversites. Greg Dobbs for bench.  Geoff Geary over Alfredo Simon..   



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 3:24 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

Jason Michaels, Matt Maloney



Since: Aug 18, 2009
Posted on: December 9, 2011 2:22 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

Marlon Byrd came up with the Phillies.  He was the starting center fielder when CBP opened in 2004.



Since: Dec 22, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:58 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

when did philly get marlon byrd



Since: Oct 13, 2009
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:15 pm
 

Homegrown Team: Philadelphia Phillies

We got Gio Gonzalez in the Thome trade with the White Sox.


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