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Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Posted on: December 19, 2011 9:55 am
Edited on: December 20, 2011 12:17 am

By Matt Snyder

What if players were only permitted to stay with the team that originally made them a professional? No trades, no Rule-5 Draft, no minor or major league free agency ... once you are a professional baseball player, you stay in that organization. This series shows how all 30 teams would look. We give you: Homegrown teams. To view the schedule/past entries of this feature, click here.

On the strength of an incredible -- and mostly homegrown -- pitching staff, the San Francisco Giants won their first World Series in 2010 (yes, the Giants had won the World Series before, but that was as the New York Giants). So when you picture how the Giants would fare in this just-for-fun series, you might think these Giants will be pretty good. If so, you'd be wrong. You'll find a similarity to the real Giants in terms of pitching and offense, but the bad is much, much worse. In fact, it's awful. Don't say we didn't warn you ...


1. Brandon Belt, RF
2. Pablo Sandoval, 3B
3. Buster Posey, 1B
4. Nate Schierholtz, CF
5. Yorvit Torrealba, C
6. Brett Pill, LF
7. Matt Downs, 2B
8. Brandon Crawford, SS

Starting Rotation

1. Tim Lincecum
2. Matt Cain
3. Madison Bumgarner
4. Ryan Vogelsong
5. Francisco Liriano


Closer - Brian Wilson
Set up - Joe Nathan, David Aardsma, Sergio Romo, Scott Linebrink, Jason Grilli
Long - Jonathan Sanchez, Kevin Correia

Notable Bench Players

Hector Sanchez, Emmanuel Burriss and Conor Gillaspie.

What's Good?

The pitching staff could be even better than the real-life lock-down staff because you add the upside of Liriano, along with Nathan and Aardsma as setup men for Wilson. Of course, Nathan had a down year while recovering from Tommy John surgery, Liriano was pretty bad and Aardsma missed the entire season with his own injury. But since we're living in a dream world anyway, just picture this staff with everyone at his best. It's amazing, top to bottom.

What's Not?

Pretty much everything else. There is no bench depth at all, which is bad because Torrealba, Pill, Downs and Crawford don't have any business being everyday big-league starters. The Belt-Sandoval-Posey start to the lineup isn't bad, but after that the lineup is brutal. Schierholtz is fine for a six or seven hitter, but definitely not cleanup on a team that wants to be in playoff contention. The presence of Sandoval and Posey probably prevents this from being the worst Homegrown offense, but it's really, really bad. The team speed is lacking, too, so the offense can't exactly hope to put pressure on the defense that way. Oh yeah, the defense. Due to having one true outfielder (I still count Belt as a true first baseman) on the entire roster in addition to that guy being a corner outfielder having to play center, and we have four guys playing out of position. The outfield's range in particular would be crippling to the elite pitching staff in that spacious outfield.

Comparison to real 2011

It's similar in that the pitching is great and the offense is a big problem, but this offense is far worse than the real-life Giants' was -- and that wasn't good enough to make the playoffs. The actual 2011 Giants went 86-76 and were quite fortunate to get there with such a bad offense. This group couldn't possibly get to .500, even with the one of the best pitching staffs in this exercise -- and, again, the defense would make the pitchers look worse. I think it looks like a 75-win team, based purely on the pitching staff, Sandoval and Posey.

Up next: Oakland Athletics

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Since: Sep 11, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:29 pm

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Wins are wins no matter when you get them.  April-September and Vogey had more!  Lots More!!  Sanchez is extremely talented, but is a head case that cant get out of his own way.  I realize that vogey could of and should of had a better stretch run, but without each of the wins he notched throughout the year there would be no stretch run.  Vogey over Sanchez for sure!  Besides its hard to argue with a starting rotation that is 1-5 All stars(Bumgardner is an all star next year for sure)!

Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:22 pm

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Rays will only trade Upton for a 1B, a first rounder, like B.J. Upton.

Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:05 pm

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

its a terrible lineup, no doubt about that! but as someone said below, i would have Belt, Gary Brown and Nate in the OF with Pill at 1B and Posey as the catcher... i think it would be a lot better to have Brown in the lineup than Torrealba, which would give the team a legitimate base-stealer and leadoff.
so, my lineup would be: Gary Brown, Nate, Belt, Sandoval, Posey, Pill, Downs, Crawford.
not good, but a bit better than this one...

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:41 pm

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Not only is the lineup terrible, but I don’t think much of the relief pitching. There are a lot of injuries waiting to happen. Romo is the best one, and the rest of the set up men are AL rejects.

Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:51 pm

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

The Giants should put a package together for BJ Upton.
Gary Brown, Pill, and some other minor league prospects.
The time in now and Upton is the kind of all around talent that they need desperately.
BJ would thrive in the NL and the spacious ball park. Yes, his HR totals may drop, but he would hit
40 doubles, 15 triples, and steal 30+ bags.
Do it now!!!

Since: Dec 22, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:44 pm

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

What a HORRID line-up!  Makes the Bucs looke like the 1971 Pirates!

Since: Feb 25, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:35 pm

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

WOWthat offense is horrible, but i prob woulda had Gary Brown at CF instead of Nate. Figure if your gonna put Pill in there why not put up  the only real bright side of our farm system now in Brown.. I also woulda hate Sanchez as the number 4 Volgesong hasnt done anyting besides for half of this year, plus he couldnt win a game the last month and a half when we really needed wins.

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